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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnother acquittal in the Freddie Gray case
Lt. Brian Rice, the highest ranking officer involved in the arrest and transport, found not guilty of all charges.
Do you think there's been a media blackout of the trials?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-rice-verdict-20160718-story.html
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...committed by...someone?
jonno99
(2,620 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)probably end up in the "cold case" file - waiting for more information, a death-bed confession, etc.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)Didn't Marilyn Mosby charge every cop who had anything to do with the arrest and transport? Who's left to be accused of murder?
This isn't a cold case. The cases have been/are being adjudicated.
annavictorious
(934 posts)It's just not a criminal homicide.
Homicide and murder are not synonyms.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)to describe all murders, manslaughter, voluntary and involuntary, self defense or even execution. The executioner does commit homicide, but of course that is legal. Successful self defense means you did commit a homicide, but it was legal.
The coroner's evidence would have been offered, so what conclusions jurors draw from it would give some idea.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)Some rise to the level of criminality, some are cases of non-criminal negligence, and some are accidents or justifiable acts.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/homicide
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Igel
(35,337 posts)If it's not there, what's left is faith.
"Now faith means putting our full confidence in the things we hope for, it means being certain of things we cannot see."
Sadly, evidence,
"ground for belief" is from late 14c.; that of "obviousness" is from 1660s and tacks closely to the sense of evident. Legal senses are from c. 1500, when it began to oust witness.
And "evident" just describes something that is clearly seen.
We don't accept faith as proof in trials.
In the absence of actual evidence, what's left is a bias resulting from perceptual salience. (q.v.)
annavictorious
(934 posts)is that, given the attention this case garnered worldwide, the media has been strangely silent concerning the actual trials.
We have hobbyists, not journalists. They get on a kick, flood us with discussion and opinion 24/7, and then move on to the next "big" story without ever doing the follow up reporting on last week's "big" story..
dembotoz
(16,825 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Pretty much every legal scholar I've seen and heard has agreed that the the State's Attorney overcharged, and in so doing presented extremely weak cases relative to the charges applied..
Every retort I've seen to the resulting acquittals has been the same: devoid of actual legal content, ignorant of criminal court process and proceeding. Guess what? "He died, and you were there, and I think you had something to do with it, therefore you're guilty" is not a valid avenue of prosecution.
The media has been mostly quiet about this because the whole mess has been an absolute train wreck from the day the officers were overcharged.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I guess in the context people also feel a black victim will result in jurors having views of the evidence that accept their preconceived biases. Part of the frustration of AA people with the justice system - like then the LA cops were acquitted in the Rodney King case.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)I don't think these circumstances are the same.
annavictorious
(934 posts)There were no juries to be biased one way or another.
There was a mistrial in December of the first cop tried. The jury was deadlocked on all counts. The judge has imposed a gag order, so there is no definitive information on why the jury was hung. That officer will be retried after the final trial of the original six. William Porter has the legal right to opt for a bench trial the second time around.
The judge who acquitted the three cops tried before him is an AA who served in the Justice Department investigating police misconduct/corruption.