more to the left that would help bring in the Bernie supporters.

already has would not have made sense.

are too smart to see a vote for Stein or Johnson as anything other than support for Trump.

For some it is not a risk

For a presidential candidate simply because of who they picked for their VP? If so who?

I am sure consider. Not the only thing.

But we can't always get what we want.

I know I'm going to cry like a baby when she is inaugurated.

Like Obama. I watched his inauguration in a room with 30 black six-year-olds. I couldn't keep a tissue dry.

see a women president. She is so excited and I am excited for her and for what we are going to get! Obama is correct, HRC is the most qualified person to be POTUS despite all the barkers declaring otherwise.

I can't wait Squinch! November cannot get here soon enough!

I think she is going to rock the boat big time! I think she is going to take it to the GOP in a fashion we've never seen before. I think she is going to put Congress on notice.

we give her the House, but I think that would take at least till her second term.

we can't afford more kowtowing to Wall Street and letting them set policy instead of set in jail cells.

He is still very young I hope his career keeps going up and up.

He has an idea to let the VP do his job & he will "make America great again"! Sounds like a corporate big shot!

make me feel so happy it wasn't Elizabeth Warren.

Other than bringing in some Sanders supporters, she would've been muzzled. Thanks for confirming that.

Senate...way more important than a VP spot at this time...hopefully the far left will not put their egos first

Who tends more towards economic populism than Kaine...

done better than McAuliffe?

Please don't tell me you believe the patronizing nonsense about him speaking Spanish....

Jeez. I wish I had taken the time to learn another language.

of Virginia law. He did so after promising as candidate to veto it. Let's deal in the reality of the man because this attempt to craft him into something he is not is exploitative of important history.

The governor did not sign it and could not have stopped it.

Tell that to Dick Cheney

Those have as much or more sway than does the VP. I think I would rather have some of these progressives as Interior Secretary, Sec. of Treasury, etc.

Kaine is a Mizzou grad. He could very well get us Missouri, too.

Arguing that it's okay that his politics aren't great because VPs don't *do* anything is already a terrible argument, but it neglects that and that's huge.

marriage as between one man and one woman, for Jesus. He did this after promising to veto it. He was also a long, long term opponent of civil unions as well as marriage equality.

It's just hard to vote for people who have exhibited open hostility toward your community over a long period of time. I'm sick of the Party asking that of me.

you want somebody even worse than W?

I've held my nose, as I will this time, for over FORTY years, and voted the lesser of two evils...get used to it

the one exception was green in 96, when ILL was safe, and I wanted to help to open the way for a third party.....of course that's not going to happen, with the two party entrenchment, allowing money to buy their votes.

we see the result every day.

this is perhaps the most important stopgap vote ever. as I said, did anybody think bush could possibly be as bad as he was?

trump is certifiably INSANE! there is no limit to the havoc reached.

if he implodes before Nov, and the vote is assured, I might vote for someone else, but nobody on the horizon is qualified, IMO

that said, the volatility of today's world would militate any sure outcome.

the violence/lawnorder factor is too unpredictable.....out of anyone's hands

so far. And I know that my idea about this is cynical, but if he is VP, he is out of the arenas where he could do this kind of thing.

a public referendum and never signed by the Governor. The courts threw it out. Stop spreading misinformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall-Newman_Amendment

Glad to know it was not reality.

The governor did not sign it and could not have stopped it.

The governor did not sign it and could not have stopped it.

SB 526 Constitutional amendment; marriage may exist only between a man and woman.

Constitutional amendment (voter referendum); marriage. Provides for a referendum at the November 2006 election on approval of a proposed constitutional amendment to define marriage. The proposed amendment provides that "only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage valid in or recognized by this Commonwealth and its political subdivisions." The proposed amendment also prohibits the Commonwealth and its political subdivisions from creating or recognizing "a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance, or effects of marriage." Further, the proposed amendment prohibits the Commonwealth or its political subdivisions from creating or recognizing "another union, partnership, or other legal status to which is assigned the rights, benefits, obligations, qualities, or effects of marriage." This bill is identical to HB 101.

<SNIP>
03/15/06 House: Signed by Speaker
03/16/06 Senate: Signed by President
04/10/06 House: Bill became law without Governor's signature, Chapter 828 (effective 7/1/06)
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+sum+SB526


Emphasis added by me.

I missed this lie earlier.

My assessment is that she and her strategists are not particularly interested in courting the radical fringe, who are largely going to vote for her regardless. So they naturally picked someone who they thought would strengthen the ticket with undecided voters. Any dispassionate cost/benefit analysis would tell her she has more votes to gain with Kaine than she might lose. And if the choice makes it more likely she'll pick up VA's electoral votes, so much the better. He's pretty popular down there, I hear.

-- Mal

is a silly way to look at it.

But not from punishment, just indifference. Which is the opposite of love.

-- Mal

strange that, understanding it as well as you do, you would see it as a slap in the face.

Her ticket gains from this, and this isn't a game.

I don't think she was slapping anyone in the face. She is doing what she has to do, and that includes trying to appeal beyond the base. If you don't do that, you lose. So she has to do that.

I don't see it as a slap in the face, I do see why others might consider it so.

-- Mal

They are unnecessary, and only reinforce the perception of being treated with contempt and dismissal.

-- Mal

it's the best thing since sliced bread and will deliver rainbows and chocolate chip cookies to all Americans.

Hillary liked working with him.

I have always believed that Hillary plays to win and have always respected her ability to do so. I think she understands the consequences of a Democratic failure to hold the WH more than most and I believe she is qualified to make the decisions that will make our victory of the dark side of Trump a reality.
I believe Bernie understands this as well and knows that his responsibility is to help deliver the down ticket seats that we will need to put our ship of state on a progressive course.
After watching the roll out of Kaine I am more than assured we will see the end of Republican obstructionism and that an incredible celebration will follow Hillary's victory.

Just silly. The VP has as much policy influence as the President wants. Did Joe Biden just tend to his garden for 8 years? Cheney was always accused here of being president for 8 years.

TPP

Banking de-regulation

Right to Work

That's rhetorical.

Cheney pretty much ran the Bush Presidency.

Biden was put in charge of Iraq and Afghanistan, and has fingerprints on several other key policy issues.

I wonder when running wars became ceremonial?