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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/23/preston.puma/Preston on Politics: PUMAs stalking Obama
Why are they angry? It all depends on whom you ask. Some of the PUMAs accuse Democratic leaders of rigging the primaries to favor Sen. Barack Obama, while others feel that he is not qualified to be the party nominee, let alone competent enough to lead the country.
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Even though Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic presidential nomination to Obama in early June and urged all of her supporters to vote for him, not all of her backers heeded the call. Hence, the beginning of the PUMA movement.
"What we are really organizing about is to reinitiate Hillary back into the presidential race," Mann said during a recent interview at a Washington bar, where she met with fellow PUMAs for kinship and to strategize about how to make Clinton the Democratic nominee.
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If PUMAs are unsuccessful in preventing Obama from getting the nomination, what will they do? Bower and Mann said they would cross party lines and vote for McCain; Navot noted she might write in Clinton's name or not vote at all. Tarpley said he would turn his gaze towards Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney, Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr or independent candidate Ralph Nader.
http://www.salon.com/2008/06/23/pumas/
The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.
But why do you keep hearing all these stories about grumpy old ladies still hung up on Hillary Clinton, the ones who’re threatening to make a scene at the Democratic convention in Denver, or vote for John McCain in November?
To be fair, it’s not just women. There are plenty of Clinton supporters of every demographic description who are still ticked. But yes, it’s true that the Clinton base skewed female, and that women over 30 are the most vocal of the malcontents. Some of them are calling themselves “PUMAs” (as in “Party Unity My Ass”), an acronym that makes them sound, appropriately enough, like cougars in a very bad mood. Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?
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1. They are angry because their candidate lost a close contest. This is just simple human math, and it happens after every primary showdown. Remember that it took some Deaniacs months to come around to John Kerry in 2004. It’s just that most years, the contests haven’t also been identity-politics duels between two underrepresented social groups vying for a chance at a political position that has always been denied them.
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As many people have already observed: What are they going to do, vote for John McCain?
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Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)regardless of its truth.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I guess if it feels familiar, that's all that's required to justify one's own actions. 
sarae
(3,284 posts)What are you trying to say, that we deserve this?
Though it's irrelevant, I was an Obama supporter. And I've never held the party hostage because they didn't vote for my candidate.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)I've certainly never said that.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)
Iggo
(47,568 posts)(Take it easy. I know what you meant...
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Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)There is a rabid, unhinged faction of his erstwhle "followers" who are dead set on disrupting this convention and discrediting the Dem ticket.
And, I'm sorry, but your contention that this is just "convention business as usual" is pure, ordorous bullshit.
"LOCK HER UP" and "HILLARY FOR PRISON" are NOT your average convention slogan.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Sorry if my posts weren't clear.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Then you haven't been paying very close attention.
Chants and t-shirts with these exact slogans were seen and heard in the streets and at some delegate caucuses earlier this morning.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)This behavior is unbecoming of a national delegate to the convention.
malaise
(269,172 posts)This is hardly new.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)You are making shit up.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)
LisaM
(27,832 posts)Your statement that something seems familiar - made today - certainly implied that the Hillary supporters acted like this at the 2008 convention.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Nothing like today happened in 2008. Clinton was meeting with her delegates, working on getting women appointed to the chair, and negotiating for a roll call speech (which she could have used to create utter and complete chaos since she lost by a mere 62 pledged delegates).
Oh and she released her delegates the night before.
still_one
(92,409 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But Obama supporters booed her back then when Obama defended her.
Those same 2008 Obama supporters turned their backs against Obama literately a week after his inauguration.
Just like Obama supporters Sanders supporters support is a mile wide and an inch deep. Turncoats the lot of them.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Now it's get in line or you'll be the reason the world ends
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)
PatSeg
(47,602 posts)I'm sure this time feels different, while we are in the middle of it, but many aspects are similar.
Of course having a republican nominee like Trump is unprecedented.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It seems because her supporters actually respected her.
Unlike Sanders supporters who are throwing him under the bus.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They supported the fact that he ran against Hillary.
Nothing more.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I suspected a lot of Feel the Bern was actually Feel the Hillary Hatred
JI7
(89,271 posts)they would be behaving the same.
too bad this less than 10 percent is drowning out the 80+ percent that is supporting Bernie and the Dem party.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)It didnt fucking happen to OBAMA.
NONE BOOED HIS CONVENTION.
JI7
(89,271 posts)at the convention.
Justice
(7,188 posts)Hillary's supporters were united behind Obama at the convention. No roll call. Threw her support to him and her delegates to him.
Understood the bigger goal. Humble and smart enough to focus on the good of the country.
THAT is not happening here.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I remember a few Hillary supporters on the internet losing their damn minds but I didn't see it at the convention.
