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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am glad that the DNC pulled Nina Turner from the speaker's list. She has said that she will
support Jill Stein. She also spoke of shutting down the convention. If you know that someone will pull a Ted Cruz, then you nip it in the bud. Something has come unhinged with Nina. Opposition is okay but craziness is unacceptable. Speakers are recognizing Bernie and the power of his candidacy, but it is time to move on during the convention. If she wants to continue the movement he started, that is good, but being petty is unacceptable.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)You can't let those types of people make headlines in the middle of your convention.
Don't care if a few Bob's were upset.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)she just about loses control. If she and her followers want to hand the election to Donald Trump by campaigning against Hillary, so be it. But, they will have the blood of millions of Americans on their hands. That's the way I see it.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)And besides why was she getting so much face time. She was state senator serving only 6 years.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)You can bet that they would have not pulled her from speaking if it wasn't serious.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)After this convention it's time to do some pruning.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)We have been infiltrated by crazy radicals in Free Mumia! T shirts.
These people weren't democrats before it was convenient to be democrats. And I mean that about a certain Vermont senator too.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I love how you know who is a Democrat and who isn't.
There are no tests or oaths.
I have an idea. Let's call up Erdogan. He's good at purges. Maybe he can help.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Do you undermine democratic candidates who have been duly elected and nominated?
If so, you're no democrat.
Defend her all you want. She's a joker and a fool. There is no "revolution." Being "radical" doesn't make you "progressive."
I'd say supporting Jill Stein after the last few days makes a very clear test of who is the enemy.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Dems attacking Dems... Please, unity only occurs during 1week very 4 yrs. otherwise, it's hear sing cats.
I wish we would adopt a parliament! Then we could have better representation and more parties.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)when our opponent is a damn fascist demagogue.
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... the no. of opponents to whom Erdogan has said, "You're fired."
I guess some folks are ok with purity tests after all.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Bullshit.
Erdogan is purging people from a position of state power.
We are talking about a private political party. You don't have free speech in a private institution. You don't have guaranteed rights to dissent and mess things up and shout down elected officials.
Typical leftist demagoguery. It's the far left who wants to shout down its opponents and purge people who fail to meet THEIR ridiculous purity tests.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Turns out that insulting your allies worse than your enemies has made the far Left rather unpopular among their allies. Who could have guessed??
melman
(7,681 posts)Seeing a lot of that here these days. You know who says 'far Left'?
Bill O'Reilly
KPN
(15,646 posts)We've privatized democracy?? There are two viable parties only, at least on the national stage. So now some believe that you gotta keep your mouth shut or be banished from either/or. My, we've come a long way!
KPN
(15,646 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)More accurately, "I guess some folks are ok with party platforms..."
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Even though we have much in common, it would be the height of absurdity to showcase a plea to vote for an opponent at a party's convention.
KPN
(15,646 posts)sounds a lot like Trumpism to me.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)"After this convention it's time to do some pruning."
I don't know what happened with Turner.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)in the general.
The primary is over. Which side are you on?
Black Bloc/Free Mumia childish anarchists and wannabe "revolutionaries" need to form their own party. What we have seen here is a successful infiltration of the Democratic Party by people who don't care about democracy. They lost an election and can't accept that millions of people chose the centrist candidate? Then they are not worth a bucket of poop.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I've been a Democrat for 42 years and there are people on this board who want to tell me I am NOT a Democrat if I don't like a candidate that has been a Democrat for a year and a half. I would have supported that candidate had he been selected by my party.
I predict a lot of these people who are trying to demonize people who have sustained this party for a long time will leave the party and not work for down ticket candidates much less the proud woman at the top of our ticket.
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)with the exception of foreign policy. She's pretty much to the left on most issues. Her and Bernie aren't super far apart ideologically. Its more about methods, imo.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)I'm falling into the loony left's silly scheme.
Hilary is progressive as hell. If elected she will be among our most progressive presidents ever.
As opposed to the Bro-aggressives. Thanks for the reminder.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Bernie and Hillary are together now and have crafted the most progressive platform in D history. Are you on board with Bernies "looney left" positions now that Hillary is on board with them?
KPN
(15,646 posts)Geesh, some people. Can you please tone it down rjsquirrel? Nina Turner's been sidelined ... and maybe she deserves it, I don't really know because I haven't been paying attention to her. Maybe she doesn't deserve it? I don't know that either. If she has been saying to the public, the media or Party officials that she won't vote for Hillary but will vote for Jill Stein instead, then sidelining her seems reasonable. But some of the stuff you are saying frankly strikes me as not a lot different from Trumpism. The Party's been infiltrated "by people who don't care about democracy"? Really? You have the corner on that judgement? You know how long all of these people have been members of the Party? Really?
KPN
(15,646 posts)Differences? You sound like Trump.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)But, the majority of those Democrats understand where the line cannot be breached. Turner is not one of them. She continues to threaten to burn down the house. The people in that house will rightfully not allow her on the property in the future.
4lbs
(6,858 posts)Anyone notice that after the convention began on day one, the two haven't been seen together at all?
She doesn't mention Bernie as much as she used to either, but talks solely about "political revolution".
It appears she is trying to co-opt the movement from Bernie and deliver it to the hands of Jill Stein.
Fortunately, the more sane Bernie supporters are not following.
Only a very small percentage of Bernie supporters will leave with her.
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)It was absolutely right to remove her from the list. I'm sure Bernie agreed.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)party, then she has no place on the Democratic stage.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)That's the joke of many extremists on left and right. She's like Sarandon and West and Grayson and so many other idiots we've allowed to use the left to make themselves famous.
She is not with the people. She's with Nina. And she's willing to see Presidendt Trump, so screw her.
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rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)A) his "DU" account is not actually him
B) have you read the news about him lately? He's a wife beating hedge fund manager who hides his millions in the Caymans and he is just about drummed out of his primary because of what just came out.
To top it off he practically attacked a reporter who asked him about it Tuesday.
Lots of DU members know and say he is a bully, and a creep, and has zero legislative accomplishments. All he has is a big mouth, and some people like that.
I'll trash men who hit their wives all day long. Go ahead and alert on me.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)will you ask hem to stop beat his wife.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Is join DU an we can no longer trash them? Might want to rethink that.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)It's a shame.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)This articulate woman had a great chance of a long career in politics...she has now s**t in her mess kit. It's sad to see such talent drop away from our party. Nina will be a young "has-been" within 2 months.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)"Wasted talent," as the Bronx Tale saying goes.
Sad.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)sad
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)as a progressive "firebrand".
However I am seeing more and more, where in some cases the "firebrands" (like her and Cynthia McKinney) get pulled further and further into the fringe, which often results in a self-inflicted wound to their credibility.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)What a lunatic.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)They should be stripped of their credentials. They are obnoxious trolls at this point.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)She doesn't have a job. This is all she's got. What else is she going to do, and her behavior is being rewarded with national media coverage. It's more attention than she ever got while in office.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)She ceased being anything other than a needless irritant, some time ago.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)she's been running around.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)is staying silent about her removal,I think there's a reason for that.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)I was looking forward to hearing her; she's always worth the time to listen. I would rather have heard her than some.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)The more irrelevant she becomes, the more relevant she thinks she is.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)she was a Democrat and will remain one. They were both at Arch St. Meeting House and did not speak to each other aside from a cordial momentary greeting. Then the DNC pulled her from the convention.
The DNC is creating martyrs of Sanders supporters, with every dig and every disrespectful comment (crazy/petty). Every time a Hillary surrogate speaks of how she will flip on the commitments she made to Sanders (Tim Kaine on TPP), or how he never should have been allowed to run, or that they are working for tRump.
This is a bed of the party's own making, and the more it is denied, and the persecution of those who speak out about it continues, polls will tank and the Democratic party will be the third party.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)With her in the room she said she is a Democrat, like it or not. DNC didn't like it.
still_one
(92,219 posts)endorsed Hillary, but asked his supporters to follow suit.
This is all on Nina Turner for deciding not to support the Democratic nominee
The vast majority of Bernie supporters not only will vote for Hillary, but will work within the Democratic party to push the issues they strongly believe in.
KPN
(15,646 posts)Seems to me like a lot of conjecture.
As a former Bernie supporter, when I hear people say it's time to move on, in part what I am hearing from some folks posting here is Bernie's agenda lost so drop it and get on board, or get lost. THAT ... is what sounds like a PURGE.
JEB
(4,748 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)in a shameless attempt to boost her own visibility and bona fides. She supported Hillary early on, but she realized that doing so would gain her no media time. What media outlet was going to interview a D-lister like her when Hillary had more high-profile surrogates than you could shake a stick at?
By aligning with Sanders, she became an instant A-lister, one of the few D politicians willing to back his campaign. Unfortunately, the media time exposed her to be a horrible, horrible surrogate for Sanders, while also doing lasting damage to her own public image.
Put a fork in her, because she's done. She'll probably seek the Green Party presidential nomination in 2020.