So no net harm done.

a nice beat but you couldn't dance to it. it was okay. might go see the movie or wait for the dvd

I went in with low expectations and it exceeded them - at least the first 2/3. I thought it fell apart at the end. I'll wait for the DVD.

about Lincoln then it is a good thing.

Have you ever seen Abraham Lincoln?
I rest my case.

The flood of fairy tale displaces anything resembling history. If it's a big hit, more kids of a certain age will know this movie than will know what the 13th through 15th amendments say, and if they learn the latter, it will at first be colored by whatever ridiculous impressions this movie made. Better they know nothing than that they associate this crap with history, since nothing is still open to learning without prior imagery already implanted.

Furthermore: Cumulatively, not one person more than would have picked up a book will pick up a book because of this movie. Very lazy assertion to make. Make an empirical case.

This premise is silly and as such I made a jest about it. What this movie says will have almost no impact on whether or not kids of a certain age know what the 13th-15th amendments say.

Good day sir.

Kids that like this may actually want to read more about Abraham Lincoln and other historical events.

Those who are afraid to mock history are condemned to...uh, whatever. I'm looking forward to it!

And Iron Sky. Definitely want that to come to the U.S. ASAP.

From Jim Meddick's "Monty"

I'm stealing it.

In modern mass societies stressed with the traffic of compulsive consumers and worker drones, a lot of people seem to be highly entertained by the idea that they could open fire and shoot to kill everyone around them without exception, women, men and children, and that this would be not only justified but a moral imperative.

There's the complementary thrill of identifying with the zombies - embracing the fear that we're already shambling horrors without identity.

I don't see that these movies have progressed philosophically since Romero's end scene in the shopping mall, which already said it all.

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1. Shaun of the Dead, where the bored modern commuter/ worker dragging himself thru his boring day was almost indistinguishable from zombie hordes at the end.

and

2. Colson Whitehead's new novel: "Zone One: A Novel." An excellent literary zombie novel that avoids all of the cliches and veers off differently, or does it?

I worked with a guy who believed that 'Men In Black' was very much true to life. I told him that I'm pretty sure it was a product of Hollywood screenwriters. And he said 'Yeah, but it's based in truth. I know for a fact that aliens have visited and the government has people whose job it is to cover it up.'

So yeah. There probably will be a few people who buy it.

We were at work when he told me this. He really believed it. MIB was also his favorite movie of all time. He'd been hoping for a movie that blew the lid off of the conspiracy and apparently that was it.

Watch 700 Club or anywhere else on the religious part of one's TV. Equally incredulous and more predatory than TV history.

Besides what if Gd was an Ancient Alien?

I grew up and went to college wo/TV and decided to go wo/TV for the duration in 2011 (to preserve my beautiful mind lol). I read and internet and feel ever more like an alien after 60 years of life.

We get the history and religion of ourselves looking in a mirror.

When young (60-70s), weird stuff and laughing was the point of the "pot" with friends.

Glad you are on DU, WC.

And I'm going to be standing in line for a ticket, shaking my head.

It's every bit as awesome as it looks!!

I like watching "Ancient Aliens" and simply take the claims with a grain of salt.

The theories, however, are incredibly interesting and still make one's mind think, "...what if?" which still forces the brain to THINK.

That's just me, though.

I also like "Fact or Faked," "Ghost Hunters" and "Finding Bigfoot" for the same reasons.

I also don't consider myself an idiot. I do, after all, abhor today's Republicans.

I read Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods decades ago. I'm also a Science Fiction fan since I was 17 years old when I discovered Robert Heinlein in my school library. I love alternate theories and the possibilities that arise from them.

terrestrial SF story of all time.

The landscape and ancient architecture and suppositions about lifestyle and scenery are divine and the presentation is pleasant and amusingly goofy.

Caveat: I am reading the 90's update of Temple's "The Sirius Mystery" now and have Van Danikan (sp) and Sitchen on the book shelves. I'll take Elaine Pagels and Gershom Scholem for s scholarly look at the God of Abraham.

Bigfoot I don't beieve because I live on a National Forest inholding that is the shortcut to the 1967 Patterson film site. My family has been her 4-5 generations through all four grandparents. Sasquatch Ridge Road turns off Cedar Camp Road just past the hunter's camp and peak named for my maternal grandfather. I used to give maps to my friend's shit and human or dog hair to some of the serious bigfoor researchers (most now dead and thus historic).....etc etc the owners and managers of the road construction crew for Bluff Creek Road stayed at my family's resort in 56-57 and enjoyed the bar, screwing with their employees, and local then national press...... etc etcetc.

Today's Republicans are insane and incomprehensible, to me, evil but also I am heartbroken over the Democratic Party. Modern politicians are tools and most humans are victims.

Hey, that's an even better movie idea: Vampires on Wall Street.

It looks like he wields a mean axe in the trailers. What's not to admire?

You wouldn't believe some of the shit some of their historical figures got into. I especially like the one where they behead the guy who in real life went on to become shogun and died several decades later than his cinematic "haircut". Now there's a zombie movie waiting to be made.

And everybody knows Yagyu Juubei looked like Sonny Chiba.

The idea of Abe Lincoln killing vampires with a holy-water-soaked wood axe? Hell yeah.

even intelligent rational people.

I've talked to a great many educated individuals who fervently deny that Abe Lincoln was a vampire hunter, in light of the overwhelming evidence that he was. They hold to that belief no matter what facts you throw their way.

Life is too short to argue it though.

and, perhaps, JFK are my kinds of Presidents. How bi-partisan!

Ben Franklin is cool too.

Hell yeah, good job Abe! He gave his life.

In the words of Lisa Simpson, this rock wards off tigers.

What on earth are you folks talking about? Thank all that is holy that I don't watch TV if this is the sort of ideas they put forth on said device.

I wonder about the lizard women...do they exist too?

I suppose if it gives people something to wail in outrage about the menaces of modern entertainment, though...

I'm amazed that people aren't getting the underlying message of this film. It's such a profound and sweeping movie, it truly is. Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter may well be the best film I've seen in ten years. It's brilliant.

Sorry, but the people who think it's a matter of "real history" or "not real history" are the ones who aren't going to get this movie. It has nothing whatsoever to do with mystery and is about the power of myth.

All these Zombie or vampire shows are, I guess, a metaphor about people mindlessly following or falling into line behind a lifestyle that is dangerous to the core values of the country...

Like most good graphic novels, they make a statement about modern society and how destructive and mind numbing it can be.

I guess, in that way, I am old school.

Only if you wish to see them that way. You can see anything any way that you like. In this case, the film isn't about zombies or vampires. It's about much more important things. But people who think literally will see it otherwise.

Those people are literally trained to respond to the stimuli of false premises due to that being the main function of MSMedia, to elicit an irrational emotional response rather than a reasoned response.

Anyone who thinks this is some silly vampire movie either hasn't seen it or, more probably, doesn't understand it. Vampires are simply its metaphor.

in the summer when all the big entertainment is released.

Didn't know The Titanic was REAL. LOL!

So you can see the teaser trailer for Life of Pi and see my work.


As to the other stuff....yeah probably.

that will be fun, too. Like Sherlock Holmes, like Star Trek, but with a real person as protagonist.

Truly. I can't believe the bad criticism it's getting, but then SF and all speculative fiction usually soars over the heads of critics. It isn't about vampires at all. Apparently, that's difficult for some people to discern. lol