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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:30 AM Aug 2016

Trump making the Ivy League Draft Exemption Team



The Don is center of that group of White/rich Privilege

"... after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.


The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service"



Fortunate son -

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
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Trump making the Ivy League Draft Exemption Team (Original Post) packman Aug 2016 OP
Good for him and for everyone else who dodged the draft in the Vietnam era. anoNY42 Aug 2016 #1
Agree - war was stupid/wasteful - but you missed the point packman Aug 2016 #3
I am sure money made it easier to dodge the draft anoNY42 Aug 2016 #4
The lottery made it more fair Cicada Aug 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #2
Who went in his place? You can probably find him here: FSogol Aug 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #7
 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
1. Good for him and for everyone else who dodged the draft in the Vietnam era.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:32 AM
Aug 2016

The war was stupid and wasteful, and the people who chose not to go were making the right decision.

And before someone tells me that his spot probably went to some poor person of color, lets not forget that the Vietnamese we were killing were even poorer.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. Agree - war was stupid/wasteful - but you missed the point
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:48 AM
Aug 2016

Don used his position and money (read the article) to escape what many could not. The system at the time -and still is today with the volunteer army - is tilted toward the rich and the silver spooners not putting themselves in harm's way. The article and Don's not being drafted is geared toward his present-day stance toward the military.

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
4. I am sure money made it easier to dodge the draft
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

but I still support even the rich avoiding the draft. If they use their money to do it, so what? It is not the rich person's fault that the system is tilted towards them (and to be more correct, Donald Trump himself was not yet rich (I don't think), his parents were rich).

Now, as to his present stance on the military, I do not agree with a lot of the things he says. However, I do not think his Vietnam draft status has anything to do with his current policy goals. The way I see it, one could easily argue that the Vietnam war should be avoided, but the War on Terror should not be avoided. In that case, one could be morally correct to avoid the Vietnam war, but could also support today's GWOT.

Think about it in reverse. Someone who served in WWII because they believed in stopping the Nazis might also, later, not support the war in Vietnam. There is nothing inconsistent about those two stances, I don't think.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. The lottery made it more fair
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:25 AM
Aug 2016

Trump graduated in 1968. I graduated from Yale in 1969. My classmates and I shared a thousand ways to game the draft which most didn't know about. Transfer to Spokane for alleged bone injuries, salt lake for high blood pressure (actual true strategies based on local medical exam practices) and so on. I became an expert on undetectable and rarely known temporary causes of high blood pressure since I was on the border for that. So basically all 1000 of my class avoided the draft. I feel guilty but I would do it again for the same selfish reasons. But the lottery did allow many less connected boys to escape the unfairness Trump and I practised.

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