It's been a long time coming, and there's no group of walking cow patties who deserve it more.

infrastructure nor rules and law and damn sure don't give a shite about the Constitution.

like they've always claimed. They only care about winning and holding on to power by any means necessary.

yup.

Still, I wonder what would rise up in its place ... much would depend on what we, as Democrats, decide we stand for.

If we continue to come out strong for a personal freedom agenda, folding LGBT equality and reproductive choice into a broad philosophical commitment that includes ending the drug war, legalizing cannabis, and promoting the freedom of consenting adults to make their own decisions about what to read, watch, do with their own bodies and the right of terminally ill people to have a dignified exit on their own terms-- then I think any nascent danger that the Libertarians would rise up to replace the GOP would be neutralized.



Probably you would end up with a crippled GOP comprising ever-dwindling numbers of religious fundamentalists, xenophobes and ayn rand types.

I remember when the GOP was "imploding" back in 2006 and 2008. This may just end up being the death throes of the Tea Party and the return of the Republicans back to their regular, 1970/1980s selves, or Trump could be so unpopular he ends up becoming the catalyst for third party viability in federal elections.

We'll just have to wait and see, I suppose.

still, I'll be happy if they have a really shitty November.

right on the mark.

quite the opposite of what people predict.

Either the party moves towards the center, or they retreat further to their end of the spectrum. It's hard to tell which will happen here. Our party hasn't moved that much on social issues, but we have moved right on economics and foreign policy.

My prediction for the Republicans is that they put on the same empty suit, but with a different label. Reaganism transformed into conservatism, which transformed into the tea party.

Now they're looking for a new name for their bad ideas.

If Drumpf hadn't come along with his star power, I sincerely doubt they'd have been able to field a candidate this year, judging from the selection they had on stage at their debates.

The devils they made deals with in the late 60s and again in 1980 have finally taken over. The Old Guard completely abandoned their own convention and are now in complete disarray as they decide whether or not to back the maniac chosen by a mob.

The Hamiltonian parties in this country are stable only while they stay relatively small. Once they start to court voting blocs they think are malleable, it's all over, they destabilize the party completely.

The Republicans will thus join the Federalists and the Whigs, sputtering on as a regional party until the next Hamiltonian party takes shape. Maybe their next party will catch a clue and stay small and stable. Probably not.

Rmoney failure in the last Presidential election. Not enough coffee in me to recall what the name they gave to that introspection, but they really should have listened to it! I cannot recall most of their conclusions, but it involved a minority outreach to try and diversify their Party. Boy did they go the other way on that one!

because they'd become so securely ensconced inside that little bubble of self created reality that their "outreach" was laughable. About the most complimentary terms I could put it into are "clumsy" and "tone deaf."

If Bill Clinton had just let the IranContra matter take its natural course then Bush Sr wouldnt have allowed to fly the coup and bring back the entire administration under his son 8 years later. My guess is that no Bush wouldve meant no 9-11 and no Iraq War although thats speculation. Lets make sure we put them down and keep them down this time.

I hope Trump's jaws keep a flapping!

shooting the rabid dog in the street.
it's about time we did.

Answer: YES!!!!! YES!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!

A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!!!!!!!

But then again, I've been ready for the end of that God-forsaken bunch for years now. Decades, actually.

Nothing could go wrong with that!

Let's go!

but these assholes are completely off the deep end and not doing anything productive or conservative. They need to take a break and go find themselves.

Yes, Dems need to move our country forward without these dead weights holding us back for no useful purpose. Republican voters are spreading their fear that once Hillary takes over she'll enact all sorts of liberal horrors.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

The current GOP presidential nominee has gone nuclear mentally and I don't doubt would go nuclear literally.

When Will The Entire Fake Conservative "Republican Brand" Be Exposed As A Fraud?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512330583

Hillary does not do what she has tried in the past, and try to build a bridge. I understand she had good reasons before, but when we wins, the GOP and their Billionaires will already be prepared. No, they do nto care if they have to wreck the country, because they want to make what THEY think it should be, and they will not stop until an army of "lone gunmen" does their bidding.

The Heritage Foundation is probably writing up her impeachment papers now.

Conservatism became a quasi religion that hardened its orthodoxy and purged the heretics. But to win elections they had to have as many people as possible worked into a froth over what the Democrats were likely to do like nudge up the top tax rate by a few percentage points or regulate some industry. You can have a political party and movement that is all about and only about helping the rich, but you can't use that message in your mass appeal, you need a blunt instrument like Fox news, and you wind up with what we have today.

The worked up into a froth part worked great, but now the unruly mobs have gone off message leaving the party wondering what to do next.

...couldn't they please go back to being the party of Eisenhower? This country could use a party like that.

for the good of the nation.

Half the country is conservative, philosophically. Those voters are going to go somewhere. A lot of them will start voting for moderate or conservative Democrats. Enough of them win and it will pull the Democrat platform away from the left. You'll end up with a centrist super-party that Wall Street would have no trouble controlling.

and the Trump Republicans are just dumb enough to vote for this _(fill in the blank)_____________

Then these same people that now support Trump would probably support another Hitler and no I don't think that is being unrealistic.
because if one would read the Rise and Fall of Hitler,( Rise and fall of the Third Reich)hey would see very close similarities between Hitler of the 1930's and now 2016 Trump

No doubt. But will it happen?

I can already hear the apologists - hey, Trump wasn't PURE enough as a conservative! If only we can get more conservative candidates we'd WIN!

Fuck yea!

Spot on bud.

and maybe, just maybe, we might have a chance.

But, what are we supposed to do about the tens of millions of knuckle draggers that vote for these "modern conservatives"? I feel this is the larger issue.

Expect to see multiple acts of terrorism in the years to come.

For the good of the nation, the two-party system has got to die.

... the wealthy. They want a strong military and police to protect their wealth and to enforce their contracts. Corporate cronyism is okay too.

Beyond that, most of what comes out of their mouths is divisive BS to win elections and to keep eyes off them.