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PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:42 AM Aug 2016

This is delicious! They're going after Melania Trump!

MSNBC just had a segment on. I didn't catch who the reporters were but they are digging deep and along with 4 other news services, they have filed a FOIA. Their rationale is that Melania was a vocal supporter of the Obama birther movement and spoke out about wanting to see his college transcripts too. Excellent, dig deep brothers and sisters!

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This is delicious! They're going after Melania Trump! (Original Post) PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 OP
There may be a "little " problem with the visa she had. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #1
I doubt it. The most she'll get is fined Warpy Aug 2016 #2
Yeah, she's not black, brown or Muslim Island Blue Aug 2016 #32
Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #45
So she's in this country illegally? Send her back to Somalia!!!!!!!!!! George II Aug 2016 #20
Slovenia Scarsdale Aug 2016 #33
I was referring sarcastically to Trump's appearance in Maine this week. George II Aug 2016 #38
I just read she wasn't married before Trump and that was doc03 Aug 2016 #63
I doubt she has anything to worry about legally or from the government ToxMarz Aug 2016 #30
Once you get your citizenship it's real hard to be taken away itsrobert Aug 2016 #47
Green card fraud by marriage is a federal felony alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #57
Meh jcgoldie Aug 2016 #3
Well if it turns out she is an illegal immigrant it would be a useful attack ad on hypocrisy. Statistical Aug 2016 #9
On her hypocrisy. Igel Aug 2016 #13
That's right. #ComradeTrump & Republican cronies knew nothing. RapSoDee Aug 2016 #19
I don't care about Melania's visa status etc. I care that Trump is unfit. That is Pisces Aug 2016 #4
maybe this will be the out he is looking for. mopinko Aug 2016 #5
Not sure that hurts Trump very much at all davidn3600 Aug 2016 #6
My take is the hypocrisy ..... Since Melania and don Kathy M Aug 2016 #7
What it mainly does, I think, is to feed (and feed into) the general narrative calimary Aug 2016 #41
Agree ...... Kathy M Aug 2016 #54
Well the point is she probably didn't immigrate here legally. Statistical Aug 2016 #11
Melanie has light skin, the immigrants tRump is going after have dark skin groundloop Aug 2016 #22
Climate change means SCVDem Aug 2016 #46
You're right. His base core will defend him 'til they're blue in the face, but... PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #52
No statute of limitation BlueInPhilly Aug 2016 #27
Who's going to prosecute? davidn3600 Aug 2016 #29
First Lady Scarsdale Aug 2016 #34
I really couldnt care any less about her nude photos davidn3600 Aug 2016 #36
I have no problem with adding more bricks to the wall. And we can do it with truth, not lies. NBachers Aug 2016 #49
The value is, not attacking her, but in lighting DRUMPF's fuse. If he cares about anybody but him. UTUSN Aug 2016 #8
^this^ PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #31
^^^^ Absolutely this!^^^^ Ilsa Aug 2016 #65
Here's what I think. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #10
Republicans are expert at this kind of hypocritical shit RapSoDee Aug 2016 #21
Previous marriage. Scarsdale Aug 2016 #35
It matters to me also ...... Kathy M Aug 2016 #53
She may have been previously married to get her Green Card kskiska Aug 2016 #12
So two "maybes". Igel Aug 2016 #16
Trump's supporters don't care about illegal "European" immigrants JimGinPA Aug 2016 #14
Trumpies don't care maryellen99 Aug 2016 #15
Wonder if they will look into the escort stories wheniwasincongress Aug 2016 #17
Not surprising from the MSM SHRED Aug 2016 #18
Her skin is too light for his supporters to care about the hypocrisy. nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #23
Just for giggles, I had a thought about the double standard the Re-Pukes have. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #24
Well, Scarsdale Aug 2016 #37
Or how about Hillary getting up onstage with 5 kids from 3 different marriages? auntpurl Aug 2016 #42
Ha! Yes and especially if Hillary had a handsome son... PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #55
No, it's not delicious.... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #25
Lock Her Up!! LOL redstateblues Aug 2016 #26
There Is No Hypocrisy When It Comes To Sex And Girls And Getting Laid - Just Ask Vitter Yallow Aug 2016 #28
If she lied to be granted citizenship, that could be grounds for deportation Paula Sims Aug 2016 #39
This is a distraction. avebury Aug 2016 #40
Did Melenia speak out about Obama's birth certificate? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #43
She did publicly speak on it. duncang Aug 2016 #60
Yes she was full birther on the View or one of those programs malaise Aug 2016 #64
Yes she was Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 #70
We need to leave this alone Proud Public Servant Aug 2016 #44
To those saying investigating Melania is a distraction and loss of focus, I say: PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #48
Exactly NBachers Aug 2016 #50
CNN has a report on Melania airing right now. True Dough Aug 2016 #51
Do you recall what the discussion was? nt. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #58
They were analyzing the veracity of her citizenship claims True Dough Aug 2016 #59
I hope she was married for the green card malaise Aug 2016 #56
This is going to backfire BainsBane Aug 2016 #61
IOKIYAR No worries from his voters Person 2713 Aug 2016 #62
One more side issue to raise: "Should Barron be deported?" Of course not. Ilsa Aug 2016 #66
Melania trump is fair game Gothmog Aug 2016 #67
the more they go after her, the more she goes after Donald Skittles Aug 2016 #68
Nah, don't like the taste and it smells bad too. I'll pass. sammythecat Aug 2016 #69

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
1. There may be a "little " problem with the visa she had.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:50 AM
Aug 2016

She may have LIED about her green card too. Actually, if any of these alleged violations are true, she could be in some serious trouble. Big time.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
2. I doubt it. The most she'll get is fined
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:59 AM
Aug 2016

because she's hawt and her husband claims to be a billionaire. The best part of this is showing up what a lying hypocrite Trump is.

But we knew that and his rabid mob doesn't care.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
33. Slovenia
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

She was married before tRump. Got her Green Card through the first marriage. Then traded UP for the $$$.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
30. I doubt she has anything to worry about legally or from the government
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:43 PM
Aug 2016

She is already a citizen. But for her (and her husbands) reputation, credibility and just the STFU factor, it is GREAT!

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
47. Once you get your citizenship it's real hard to be taken away
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:28 PM
Aug 2016

She's married to a United States Citizen and her child was born in the USA.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
3. Meh
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:02 AM
Aug 2016

In my opinion it doesn't damage Trump at all just diverts from his own stupidity and ties to Russia. Perhaps it even makes Melania look like a sympathetic figure.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
4. I don't care about Melania's visa status etc. I care that Trump is unfit. That is
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:12 AM
Aug 2016

What everyone should be focusing and reporting on. Trump is as hypocritical as they come. This is nothing to the long list of what makes him unfit for office. Don't get distracted by something that has nothing to do with the job. She is not running.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
5. maybe this will be the out he is looking for.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:19 AM
Aug 2016

then he can claim that he is doing it to protect poor mellie.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
6. Not sure that hurts Trump very much at all
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:25 AM
Aug 2016

Going after Melania's immigration status only maybe embarrasses Trump among his big supporters. But they won't end their support of him because of that. So it's kind of pointless other than create a talking point. Trump and his supporters also maintain they are not against legal immigration. Becoming a citizen through marriage is legal immigration. It always has been.

Nothing is going to happen to Melania. You'd have a lot of trouble prosecuting anything criminally from that long ago. And it's moot since she's a citizen now. No one is going to take that away from her.

Melania Trump is not running for president. So how much are people really going to care about her immigration status 15-20 years ago? That's like conservatives re-visiting Bill Clinton's affairs in the 90s. Do people care?

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
7. My take is the hypocrisy ..... Since Melania and don
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

pushed the birther stuff ....... there may be some legal ramifications on how she obtained visa ...... who knows it might shine a light on dons own practice of using visa 's to bring in people here to work instead of hiring within USA or even his manufacturing practices

don does have to be held accountable for everything ....... I hope reporters / media do not let anything slide .

calimary

(81,323 posts)
41. What it mainly does, I think, is to feed (and feed into) the general narrative
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

that this SOB, himself, IS a sleazy so-&-so, and is surrounded by other sleazy so-&-so types, and even married one. This is who he is, and who he attracts. Birds of a feather and all that. Just reinforces it, but at a much deeper and more personal, intimate level. He even married someone who's likely gamed the system.

They all seem to find each other, don't they.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
11. Well the point is she probably didn't immigrate here legally.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:59 AM
Aug 2016

It does show even trumps rhetoric about illegal immigration is just hypocrisy when he married an illegal immigrant. Your right it won't change the view of his core supporters but elections are never about changing the view of core supporters it is the learners and the undecideds.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
22. Melanie has light skin, the immigrants tRump is going after have dark skin
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

That's all the justification he needs, as far as he's concerned she's a 'desirable' immigrant and those with dark skin are 'undesirables'.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
52. You're right. His base core will defend him 'til they're blue in the face, but...
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

it's the fence-sitters and undecideds that will DETERMINE this election. If Trump's wife has broken the law, it may matter to some! And that could make the difference.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
29. Who's going to prosecute?
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:41 PM
Aug 2016

You are going to prosecute Melania Trump for violating laws 20 years ago but ignore the millions who are violating that same law today?

You REALLY want to go down that road?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
34. First Lady
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:49 PM
Aug 2016

Bad enough she would be the first FLOTUS with nude photos floating worldwide, now this? Others are deported for visa fraud.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
36. I really couldnt care any less about her nude photos
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:56 PM
Aug 2016

I just really don't think most Americans are going to care that a woman took nude photos decades ago.

You really think that's what needs to be discussed?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
65. ^^^^ Absolutely this!^^^^
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:55 PM
Aug 2016

HRC shouldn't touch it or even allude to it.

This shouldn't be an attack, just a compassionate reveal on the difficulties in immigrating to the US.

And a reminder of Trump's immigration plans.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
10. Here's what I think.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:59 AM
Aug 2016

Melania is Donald's bought trophy. He wanted her. He was in the position and had the resources to get what he wanted. So he throws money at her little "problems" and told the guys to clean them up. She's manufactured and choreographed. She's a BIRTHER, she lied about her college degree, lied about writing her convention speech and now it's being investigated whether she's lied about her visa and green card. Oh and her website has been taken down. She's not going to stand up very well to the scrutiny. She's a phony. The hypocrisy is off the chart. Does any of this matter to anyone? I don't know, but it does to me.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
35. Previous marriage.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:53 PM
Aug 2016

It has been reported that she had a previous marriage, then she got her Green Card. So, another lie is that tRump is her first marriage? Also, her roomate a Swedish model was chased after by tRump, so Melaria KNEW he was rich. Who stalked WHOM? tRump was fooled by a gold digger!

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
12. She may have been previously married to get her Green Card
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:02 PM
Aug 2016

If so, and if she hasn't divorced the first husband, she would be a bigamist.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. So two "maybes".
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

That's the problem. A (D) lawyer who hates Trump is relying on what he may have seen a decade ago.

Since people don't know the conditions on green cards--but know they can be issued if married to a US citizen--that's taken as a given.

They check to make sure the marriage isn't a sham before issuing the green card. That takes a while. Having a kid helps. It's not just "you check the box and they take your word for it."

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
15. Trumpies don't care
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

The only immigrants they have a problem with are The non white ones. White Europeans are a-ok.

Ever notice how these people scream about Hispanics and Arabs need to learn English but you never hear them complain when they hear people speak Polish,Russian or Italian.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
17. Wonder if they will look into the escort stories
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:09 PM
Aug 2016

They have been saying since the early 2000's (possibly even late nineties) that she met Trump through an escort service.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
24. Just for giggles, I had a thought about the double standard the Re-Pukes have.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

Would it matter to anyone or even get a second look if President Obama had 5 kids from 3 different women, was an adulterer that had affairs or that his wife, Michele Obama did soft porn photo gigs, including ones with another naked woman fondling her from the rear? Nah...IOKIYR.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
37. Well,
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:56 PM
Aug 2016

If that were the case, President Obama would NEVER have made it into office. He has too much CLASS to be compared to tRump. We all know the gop has lower standards for themselves than for Democratic representatives.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
25. No, it's not delicious....
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:31 PM
Aug 2016

...it's a diversion. The focus and spotlight must be kept on the walking, small fuckstick and not his Eastern European mail order bride.

Laser beam focus.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
28. There Is No Hypocrisy When It Comes To Sex And Girls And Getting Laid - Just Ask Vitter
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

All is fair in the game of trying to get sex.

Just ask anyone

Paula Sims

(877 posts)
39. If she lied to be granted citizenship, that could be grounds for deportation
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

They did it to John Demyanuyk and deported him to Germany. They can do it to others - but they won't. It'll look like they're in the bag for Hillary.

Still. . . quietly. . . in a few years. . .

avebury

(10,952 posts)
40. This is a distraction.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Aug 2016

They need to focus on Trump's tax returns and his Russian dealings.

It makes you wonder what the NSA might have on him from any wiretaps/monitoring Trump because of Putin.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
43. Did Melenia speak out about Obama's birth certificate?
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

I have honestly never heard anything from her until she stole Michelle's speech

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
44. We need to leave this alone
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:18 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary is winning by taking the high road. Hillary is fighting against the idea that she's petty, vindictive, and will say or do anything to be president. Hillary's favorables are still under water. Nothing -- nothing -- about going after a candidate's spouse over some minor visa violation 20 years ago helps her, or us. Absolutely nothing. Let the media do what it likes, but Hillary and her surrogates need to leave this the hell alone.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
48. To those saying investigating Melania is a distraction and loss of focus, I say:
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 01:34 PM
Aug 2016

IMO, it is not. It's necessary to hit him from EVERY angle from now 'til next Tuesday or the cows come home!
We CAN muti-task! Probe him from every direction possible and keep it coming.
It's not one or the other, it's ALL of it. Put a microscope up his ass and look at everything he's ever done and that includes his phony, lying, BIRTHER wife.
I think the press will do it too. He's banned them from his rallies and press conferences. He's called them every name in the book. He's told them to shut up and sit down. Fuck this lunatic. Go get him! (and her too)





True Dough

(17,311 posts)
59. They were analyzing the veracity of her citizenship claims
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

with an emphasis on some of her past statements while detailing relevant dates.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
61. This is going to backfire
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:31 PM
Aug 2016

People need to focus on Trump and leave Melania out of it.
Being married to Trump is penance enough.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
66. One more side issue to raise: "Should Barron be deported?" Of course not.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 03:25 PM
Aug 2016

Of course not. His father is American born, as is he. And children born in the US shouldn't be forced out because republicans call them "anchor babies".

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
68. the more they go after her, the more she goes after Donald
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 04:14 AM
Aug 2016

she has never expected to actually work for her gold

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
69. Nah, don't like the taste and it smells bad too. I'll pass.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 12:47 PM
Aug 2016

Melania's citizenship issues have nothing to do with why I want Trump to lose.

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