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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is delicious! They're going after Melania Trump!
MSNBC just had a segment on. I didn't catch who the reporters were but they are digging deep and along with 4 other news services, they have filed a FOIA. Their rationale is that Melania was a vocal supporter of the Obama birther movement and spoke out about wanting to see his college transcripts too. Excellent, dig deep brothers and sisters!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)She may have LIED about her green card too. Actually, if any of these alleged violations are true, she could be in some serious trouble. Big time.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)because she's hawt and her husband claims to be a billionaire. The best part of this is showing up what a lying hypocrite Trump is.
But we knew that and his rabid mob doesn't care.
Island Blue
(5,817 posts)so Trump's base won't give a carp.
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)She was married before tRump. Got her Green Card through the first marriage. Then traded UP for the $$$.
George II
(67,782 posts)doc03
(35,349 posts)several years later.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)She is already a citizen. But for her (and her husbands) reputation, credibility and just the STFU factor, it is GREAT!
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)She's married to a United States Citizen and her child was born in the USA.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Just saying.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)In my opinion it doesn't damage Trump at all just diverts from his own stupidity and ties to Russia. Perhaps it even makes Melania look like a sympathetic figure.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Igel
(35,320 posts)Well, comparing current and past views.
People never change, of course.
RapSoDee
(421 posts)This is all Melania's fault.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)What everyone should be focusing and reporting on. Trump is as hypocritical as they come. This is nothing to the long list of what makes him unfit for office. Don't get distracted by something that has nothing to do with the job. She is not running.
mopinko
(70,135 posts)then he can claim that he is doing it to protect poor mellie.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Going after Melania's immigration status only maybe embarrasses Trump among his big supporters. But they won't end their support of him because of that. So it's kind of pointless other than create a talking point. Trump and his supporters also maintain they are not against legal immigration. Becoming a citizen through marriage is legal immigration. It always has been.
Nothing is going to happen to Melania. You'd have a lot of trouble prosecuting anything criminally from that long ago. And it's moot since she's a citizen now. No one is going to take that away from her.
Melania Trump is not running for president. So how much are people really going to care about her immigration status 15-20 years ago? That's like conservatives re-visiting Bill Clinton's affairs in the 90s. Do people care?
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)pushed the birther stuff ....... there may be some legal ramifications on how she obtained visa ...... who knows it might shine a light on dons own practice of using visa 's to bring in people here to work instead of hiring within USA or even his manufacturing practices
don does have to be held accountable for everything ....... I hope reporters / media do not let anything slide .
calimary
(81,323 posts)that this SOB, himself, IS a sleazy so-&-so, and is surrounded by other sleazy so-&-so types, and even married one. This is who he is, and who he attracts. Birds of a feather and all that. Just reinforces it, but at a much deeper and more personal, intimate level. He even married someone who's likely gamed the system.
They all seem to find each other, don't they.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)Statistical
(19,264 posts)It does show even trumps rhetoric about illegal immigration is just hypocrisy when he married an illegal immigrant. Your right it won't change the view of his core supporters but elections are never about changing the view of core supporters it is the learners and the undecideds.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)That's all the justification he needs, as far as he's concerned she's a 'desirable' immigrant and those with dark skin are 'undesirables'.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Many of us will be getting darker skin tones.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)it's the fence-sitters and undecideds that will DETERMINE this election. If Trump's wife has broken the law, it may matter to some! And that could make the difference.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)There is no statute of limitations for visa fraud.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)You are going to prosecute Melania Trump for violating laws 20 years ago but ignore the millions who are violating that same law today?
You REALLY want to go down that road?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Bad enough she would be the first FLOTUS with nude photos floating worldwide, now this? Others are deported for visa fraud.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)I just really don't think most Americans are going to care that a woman took nude photos decades ago.
You really think that's what needs to be discussed?
NBachers
(17,122 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Light that fuse! Guaranteed he'll explode in spectacular fashion!
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)HRC shouldn't touch it or even allude to it.
This shouldn't be an attack, just a compassionate reveal on the difficulties in immigrating to the US.
And a reminder of Trump's immigration plans.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Melania is Donald's bought trophy. He wanted her. He was in the position and had the resources to get what he wanted. So he throws money at her little "problems" and told the guys to clean them up. She's manufactured and choreographed. She's a BIRTHER, she lied about her college degree, lied about writing her convention speech and now it's being investigated whether she's lied about her visa and green card. Oh and her website has been taken down. She's not going to stand up very well to the scrutiny. She's a phony. The hypocrisy is off the chart. Does any of this matter to anyone? I don't know, but it does to me.
RapSoDee
(421 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)It has been reported that she had a previous marriage, then she got her Green Card. So, another lie is that tRump is her first marriage? Also, her roomate a Swedish model was chased after by tRump, so Melaria KNEW he was rich. Who stalked WHOM? tRump was fooled by a gold digger!
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)the hypocrisy and all their lies need exposed
kskiska
(27,045 posts)If so, and if she hasn't divorced the first husband, she would be a bigamist.
Igel
(35,320 posts)That's the problem. A (D) lawyer who hates Trump is relying on what he may have seen a decade ago.
Since people don't know the conditions on green cards--but know they can be issued if married to a US citizen--that's taken as a given.
They check to make sure the marriage isn't a sham before issuing the green card. That takes a while. Having a kid helps. It's not just "you check the box and they take your word for it."
JimGinPA
(14,811 posts)maryellen99
(3,789 posts)The only immigrants they have a problem with are The non white ones. White Europeans are a-ok.
Ever notice how these people scream about Hispanics and Arabs need to learn English but you never hear them complain when they hear people speak Polish,Russian or Italian.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)They have been saying since the early 2000's (possibly even late nineties) that she met Trump through an escort service.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)All fluff 24/7.
OBTW...Koch Industries advertises on MSNBC.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Would it matter to anyone or even get a second look if President Obama had 5 kids from 3 different women, was an adulterer that had affairs or that his wife, Michele Obama did soft porn photo gigs, including ones with another naked woman fondling her from the rear? Nah...IOKIYR.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)If that were the case, President Obama would NEVER have made it into office. He has too much CLASS to be compared to tRump. We all know the gop has lower standards for themselves than for Democratic representatives.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)NEVER. HAPPEN.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)she couldn't keep her hands off of! lol.
Aviation Pro
(12,172 posts)...it's a diversion. The focus and spotlight must be kept on the walking, small fuckstick and not his Eastern European mail order bride.
Laser beam focus.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)All is fair in the game of trying to get sex.
Just ask anyone
Paula Sims
(877 posts)They did it to John Demyanuyk and deported him to Germany. They can do it to others - but they won't. It'll look like they're in the bag for Hillary.
Still. . . quietly. . . in a few years. . .
avebury
(10,952 posts)They need to focus on Trump's tax returns and his Russian dealings.
It makes you wonder what the NSA might have on him from any wiretaps/monitoring Trump because of Putin.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I have honestly never heard anything from her until she stole Michelle's speech
duncang
(1,907 posts)And supported the notion that Obama wasn't born in the U.S.
malaise
(269,063 posts)Think long and hard about that
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Hillary is winning by taking the high road. Hillary is fighting against the idea that she's petty, vindictive, and will say or do anything to be president. Hillary's favorables are still under water. Nothing -- nothing -- about going after a candidate's spouse over some minor visa violation 20 years ago helps her, or us. Absolutely nothing. Let the media do what it likes, but Hillary and her surrogates need to leave this the hell alone.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)IMO, it is not. It's necessary to hit him from EVERY angle from now 'til next Tuesday or the cows come home!
We CAN muti-task! Probe him from every direction possible and keep it coming.
It's not one or the other, it's ALL of it. Put a microscope up his ass and look at everything he's ever done and that includes his phony, lying, BIRTHER wife.
I think the press will do it too. He's banned them from his rallies and press conferences. He's called them every name in the book. He's told them to shut up and sit down. Fuck this lunatic. Go get him! (and her too)
NBachers
(17,122 posts)True Dough
(17,311 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)True Dough
(17,311 posts)with an emphasis on some of her past statements while detailing relevant dates.
malaise
(269,063 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)People need to focus on Trump and leave Melania out of it.
Being married to Trump is penance enough.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Of course not. His father is American born, as is he. And children born in the US shouldn't be forced out because republicans call them "anchor babies".
Gothmog
(145,328 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)she has never expected to actually work for her gold
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)Melania's citizenship issues have nothing to do with why I want Trump to lose.