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Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, the Co-Founder of the gun violence prevention organization Americans for Responsible Solutions, release the below statement today following a spate of sexist and homophobic attacks on Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey in response to her steps to help keep guns out of the wrong hands:
The attacks on Attorney General Healey are more than offensive, sexist, and homophobic; they are dangerous. Believe me: This kind of rhetoric fuels hatred, violence, and puts lives at risk. It must stop. In the face of these attacks that have no place in our country, I stand with Maura Healey.
Since I left public office, I have watched with dismay as civility in our politics has eroded and these kinds of irresponsible attacks have become all too common. It is poisonous and a stain on our politics.
The return of civility is essential to the frank, respectful and vigorous public debate that has been our countrys great legacy and that is our only hope for meeting our shared challenges.
More: http://americansforresponsiblesolutions.org/2016/08/04/maura-healey-attacks/
AG faces sexist, antigay slurs after imposing gun ban
What nobody was prepared for was how vile, sexist, and homophobic so much of that pushback would be.
Much of it is unprintable ugly tirades full of antigay slurs, mysogyny, and profanity, including the c-word, slung over and over. Callers shout obscenities and hurl names at the junior staffers who work the AGs hotline.
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"Hey witch . . . did you ban pressure cookers too? somebody wrote, referring to the devices used in the Boston Marathon bombing.
I hope you get throat cancer, posted another.
Another [expletive] woman passing laws based off emotional bias this is why woman[sic] should not have leading roles theyre emotionally to [sic] weak, wrote a grammatically challenged charmer.
Theyve called Healey ugly, her agenda satanic, and taunted her for being gay. One person tweeted that hed like to hire a homeless man to rape and disembowel the attorney general alive. A commenter on a gun nut blog tracked down her home address and posted it.
More: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/07/30/faces-sexist-antigay-slurs-after-imposing-gun-ban/5yz8YB5iI8JdpnEGqDw7bN/story.html
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What a bunch of sick sniveling F**KERS!
They are sick
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)The NRA is behind this filth as well. Notice on one of the comments the poster says they are going to take a road trip.
I didn't bother reading more comments than I posted, I am sure FB is attacking her as well.
bananakabob
(105 posts)Don't think it isn't horribly racist just because it's a blue state because Massachusetts has a history of horrific racism.
We have our own rednecks here too.
mopinko
(70,129 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I was shocked to read the comments.
I voted for AG Healey. She is a good person and does not deserve this vile filth.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)Good on Gabby for her support.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Who are these people? Oh that is right, they are voting for Don the Con.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)I hope she stays safe.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Maura, yes and others as well.
bananakabob
(105 posts)By threatening someone who wants to ensure it stays safe with racist and homophobic slurs.
Can we end the notion once and for all of the mythical "responsible gun owner"?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Myself, for example.
Is that acceptable to you?
bananakabob
(105 posts)You're not reasonable.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...which you are certainly entitled to express.
As I am mine.
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bananakabob
(105 posts)You know I thought this site was cheering for progressive positions not ranting against someone who enacts them. Did I take a wrong turn and end up at Free Republic?
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)Are not supposed to be in the "restriction" game...
That is for REgressives..
I am consistently pro-choice.....
bananakabob
(105 posts)And out of the hands of people is totally a bad thing.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The trouble is, Healy *didn't* move to get "things that only exist to kill or harm off the streets"
Check the statistics again- most of those people killed and injured in Massachusetts
were killed and injured by handguns, which Healy didn't go after and which are still
just as available here
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Its no surprise the Orlando killer chose an AR-15 style assault rifle. Its a weapon of war, originally created for combat, and designed to kill many people in a short amount of time with incredible accuracy. Its in the same category as weapons chosen by killers in Newtown, Aurora, and San Bernardino. These are not weapons of self-defense. They are weapons used to commit mass murder. And they have no business being in civilian hands.
How in Massachusetts, then, home to some of the strongest gun laws in the country, do we allow people to buy these guns?
The gun industry has found a way to exploit our laws, a loophole of potentially horrific proportions. And its time we act.
The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans copies or duplicates of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a copy or duplicate weapon is. They market state compliant copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example,tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html#commentssmall
You got one thing right.
The verifiable reality is people are being slaughtered all over this country. Men Women Children Babies because of antiquated gun laws and the NRA that is making Billions off every death.
What CIVILIAN NEEDS AN AK47!? You know who the show boaters are? Want to know who is panic mongering? It is those that cherish guns at any cost.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)What she did is no where near reasonable, even most of the elected legislature to include Democrats said so.
bananakabob
(105 posts)not for public consumption. I applaud her because I am a liberal.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)They do not fire full auto or burst as is what an assault rifle is. No military uses the AR-15 civilian version that I know of as it does not have a 3 round burst capability. The civilian rifle has been designed for civilian use only and will not accept military specification trigger parts. That is, it was designed for civilian usee, not for the military.
I do own several full military specification rifles
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)" The civilian rifle has been designed for civilian use only and will not accept military specification trigger parts. That is, it was designed for civilian usee, not for the military.
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The loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban
Its no surprise the Orlando killer chose an AR-15 style assault rifle. Its a weapon of war, originally created for combat, and designed to kill many people in a short amount of time with incredible accuracy. Its in the same category as weapons chosen by killers in Newtown, Aurora, and San Bernardino. These are not weapons of self-defense. They are weapons used to commit mass murder. And they have no business being in civilian hands.
How in Massachusetts, then, home to some of the strongest gun laws in the country, do we allow people to buy these guns?
The gun industry has found a way to exploit our laws, a loophole of potentially horrific proportions. And its time we act.
The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans copies or duplicates of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a copy or duplicate weapon is. They market state compliant copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example,tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html#commentssmall
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)or at worst, outright lying. Knowledge of the subject is a good thing.
After the Colt Armalite AR-15 rifle was purchased by the US military it was released to the public as a semi-automatic rifle
FOPA redefined the definition of a machine gun to include individual components with which a semi-automatic firearm can be converted to full-automatic (based on a 1981 ATF ruling on machine gun parts). Since 1993, the bolt carrier groups used in AR-15 type rifles for civilians have employed additional measures to prevent modification to full auto. Colt AR-15's use a metal alloy wall to separate the fire control group from the sear, preventing use of full automatic parts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Thanks.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)You are saying, based on Wiki that....
The Boston Globe reporter is lying as is the AG of Massachusetts. You are accusing our Attorney General of Massachusetts of lying based on wiki links?
Holy Sh*t.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Facts are facts
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)First hand knowledge. Why do you need to rely on wiki?
I prefer to go with the woman I helped elect as our AG. I have found she supports my interests on the topic and not a poster on the internet that promotes guns. I am against the sale of AK45's. Period. NO CITIZEN NEEDS ONE. You want to play, join the marines.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)So I do have quite a bit of first hand knowledge. The Wiki information is correct even if you do not want to believe it. I have a very good feeling your AG will get her ass handed to her when this goes to court.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)If it was a male AG, he would get his ass handed to him too. Quite seeing sexism where it is not.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Its no surprise the Orlando killer chose an AR-15 style assault rifle. Its a weapon of war, originally created for combat, and designed to kill many people in a short amount of time with incredible accuracy. Its in the same category as weapons chosen by killers in Newtown, Aurora, and San Bernardino. These are not weapons of self-defense. They are weapons used to commit mass murder. And they have no business being in civilian hands.
Answer me this. Why does anyone need to own an assault rifle?
That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)What she did is moral panic-mongering, not borne out by verifiable statistics.
Sad to see this being defended on an otherwise progressive website.
Also, I would ask you some questions right back:
Do you need everything *you* own?
Should you have been made to answer to some "Department of Needs" before you bought it,
or does that criteria only apply to things you, personally, don't like?
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Hooooly sh*T
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Equating a kindle to an AK47 is.
You are very passionate about guns and ownership when you say you don't own any.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)What you don't have is the right to decide who gets to exercise enumerated rights simply
because you've declared them prima facie 'dangerous'. Leave that totalitarian shit to Don and the Trumpkins.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)"What you don't have is the right to decide who gets to exercise enumerated rights simply
because you've declared them prima facie 'dangerous'. Leave that totalitarian shit to Don and the Trumpkins."
Cast your opinion on theses solid citizens. So are you saying these macho guys with guns get to exercise their enumerative right to rip the rest of us tax payers off because they have a gun.
Laws are laws. I hope we see many more.
Oh, wait! A well formed militia! YES!
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Bunday mornin´, it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Bunday mornin´, Bunday mornin´ couldn´t guarantee
That Bunday evenin´ you would still be here with me
Bunday, Bunday, can´t trust that day
Bunday, Bunday, sometimes it just turns out that way
Oh Bunday mornin´ you gave me no warnin´ of what was to be
Oh Bunday, Bunday, how could you leave and not take me
Every other day, every other day
Every other day of the week is fine, yeah
But whenever Bunday comes, but whenever Bunday comes
A-you can find me cryin´ all of the time
Guns! Guns! Guns! NOT!
Motley13
(3,867 posts)hard to believe the NRA once backed responsible gun owner legislation.?????
When did the lose their minds??????
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Like Thurston Howell on Gilligan's Island, no smelling salts needed--they came back to consciousness when someone ran a K-note under their noses.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Thank you, Gabby!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)by the company they keep!
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I have never seen that picture. I am assuming that was before or after the gay pride parade here.
Love it! Two women I have a lot of respect for! You just made my day yallerdawg.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)have a gun safety platform!
AG Healey and Hillary Clinton want to try to reduce gun violence.
Let's see what works! The status quo is unacceptable!
You covered a lot of today's most prominent issues facing us - gun safety reform, rightwing intransigence, internet bullying, misogyny, anti-gay undercurrents - good job, she!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)The one where rifles are demonstrably less deadly than fists, handguns, and knives-
but are acted against for political gain?
*That* 'status quo'?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)2016 to Date, Total Number of Incidents 32,690
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
If stopping one sale of one more toy someone wants to play with saves one more victim - it's all good!
But please stand against any reform, regulation, restriction - it's good to know the rightwing/NRA position, good to know what we are up against.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)So much for *that* argument. As for your others:
Only the pointless and ineffective ones.
You seem to have to have somehow gotten the notion that "not promulgating a moral panic"= 'rightwing/NRA position'
Bullshit.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And use handguns, why is she going after the least used weapon for violence in that state? Grandstanding 101.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)This op has become upsetting.
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)If that thing is in good shape from end to end it is worth a good bit of money!
The pic is great, too--the sneakers are cool as can be!
Paladin
(28,264 posts)That's the sort of sick trash talk that has become a hallmark of the pro-gun militancy movement. Good for Gabby on calling these diseased individuals out on their remarks. And best wishes to Attorney General Healy in her most worthwhile efforts.
lapucelle
(18,276 posts)She and her husband came to our phone bank location the Sunday before the NY primary. She gave her stump speech, the same one she gave at the convention.
I was so moved that I was crying. Gabby lost so much, but continues to give so much to the people and the causes she believes in.
And she actually comforted me. She smiled at me and said, "don't cry" as I stood to have my picture taken with her.
Remarkable.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I am so glad you got to meet her. She is an inspiration to us all, lapucelle.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)If that had happened to me, I think I would have withdrawn from life and been defeated for the rest of my days.
She is extraordinary
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Especially when that "someone else" very nearly lost her life by some wacko with a gun intent on killing her.
Those particular people have no soul. I don't know what made them that way, but they're despicable.
Gabby is a hero.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)The insults were being hurled at Maura and Gabby is standing with her.
MADem
(135,425 posts)for actual manhood are accurate.
I wonder if anyone has ever done a study to examine how penis size relates to poor internet grammar?
I hope they get that gun nut blog commenter for inciting violence or communicating threats, or something....
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)The blog commenter, citing rape and disembowelment of our AG is one sick F**K. Yes, bet he feels like a really 'Big' man now. Would love to see a study.
They act like she is taking away their guns when she is in fact, closing the loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban. WHY DO THEY NEED MILITARY ASSAULT WEAPONS in the first place? The little boys need them so badly, I say go join the Army.
Thanks sheshe2 -- you rock!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is just sick! I would not have expected this from my home state. I am absolutely appalled.
I stand with Maura Healey.
MADem
(135,425 posts)idiot commenter, too...ya gotta wonder!
I wonder if Mitt The Shitt Romney used assault weapons when he was varmint huntin'?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Obsessed with male anatomy
MADem
(135,425 posts)gun-humping side didn't perpetually reference their manhood in the context of their devices that fire bullets. It's kind of impossible to ignore when one sees this kind of substitution behavior, amongst some, not all, mind you--but that 'some' are rather overt (and almost comical to the point that they can be mistaken for satirists) in their conduct. They also tend to get their back up easily and try to flip the script when the behavior is noted.
The reason for the mocking is because the behavior is so common--were it a rare occurence, no one would, to quote Oprah, "make the connection."
I simply don't worry about hurting fee-fees on this matter--I'm with Samatha Bee (the clip at the link is must-see):
Sample: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/samanth-bee-just-scorched-rick-scott-the-nra-and-the-high-capacity-penis-substitutes-they-call-guns/
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Then I am sure you can link to many cases on DU of that. I bet you can't, I only see it from the ones posting insults about firearms owners.
MADem
(135,425 posts)But really, a simple google will pull up the relationship, which has been well articulated down the years, and anyone who has lived in society has an awareness of it. Do that google--you will see pages and pages and pages of links for you to peruse, if you are all that interested.
The relationship is well-established, and "outside DU" too--who'd a thought!
If the shoe doesn't fit you, I'd urge you to not wear it. I'm quite sure responsible "firearms owners" can recognize the type when they see it, too, if they'd take the time to look.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Because that is just not true at all. It would also behoove you not to make blanket ad hominem attacks on firearms owners. At least now you meekly admit there are "responsible" firearms owners. I do not believe you as you had to put that in quotes, but a vast majority of the around 100 million firearms owners are responsible. Many are here on DU.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think you're doing plenty of 'behooving' all by yourself, there! And if you don't understand what "If the shoe doesn't fit..." means with regard to "blanket ad hominem attacks" (quel horreur!!!) then I simply can't bother to help you.
I'll leave you with this:
Is that "meek" enough for ya?
Have a nice day.....
spanone
(135,844 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)very confusing.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Why is that confusing?
6chars
(3,967 posts)i wasn't paying close attention and had vaguely heard of Maura Healey, atty general but had not registered that the person holding that position was actually a new person. now that i have looked her up, she seems to have some pros and some cons. she sure hates pot!
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MADem
(135,425 posts)Gabby Giffords. And "civility" has to do with how the AG was crudely insulted by gun humping sexist assholes.
Reading the article before commenting IS helpful. I urge you to do that in future before we are forced to assume that you are supportive of the hate-filled misogynists to which Ms. Giffords is objecting.
smDh!!!!
77. "Since I left public office, I have watched with dismay as civility in our politics erode"
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"Civility in our politics"?
AG personally decides to Reinterpret a law that has been on the books for 20 years - overnight...not much politics involved.
What did they expect as a response? Unicorns and rainbows and good thoughts?
Here's what they DON'T expect as a response--nasty, vile, sexist, homophobic disgusting threats of violence.
Unless you are supportive of that shit, you'd do well to just back up and recalibrate your response.
Thanks, MADem!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I want her to run against Governor Frankenbaker.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I see her running for Congress, but Governor works for me as well.
Thanks, Arkana.