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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 05:30 PM Aug 2016

Top Republicans are discussing fleeing from Trump and discussing his loss as a given

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After a disastrous week of feuds and plummeting poll numbers, Republican leaders have concluded that Donald J. Trump is a threat to the party’s fortunes and have begun discussing how soon their endangered candidates should explicitly distance themselves from the presidential nominee.

For Republicans in close races, top strategists say, the issue is no longer in doubt. One House Republican has already started airing an ad vowing to stand up to Mr. Trump if he is elected president, and others are expected to press similar themes in the weeks ahead.

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Top Republicans are discussing fleeing from Trump and discussing his loss as a given (Original Post) kpete Aug 2016 OP
Tsk tsk so much angst katsy Aug 2016 #1
You break it malaise Aug 2016 #2
HAHA! Rex Aug 2016 #3
Oh my, what's a party of spiteful, self serving vindictive SOB's to do? MichiganVote Aug 2016 #4
Interesting, I thought they'd just close ranks Warpy Aug 2016 #5
Since I'm such a bleeding heart liberal, I'd be happy to tell them how to fix this... Hugin Aug 2016 #6
"Damned if we do and damned if we don't" ThoughtCriminal Aug 2016 #7
Trump voters bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #8
bandwagon voters. Springslips Aug 2016 #12
Agree bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #14
"a different, non-threatening view of republicans"--in other words, an outright LIE, niyad Aug 2016 #9
Shorter Republican strategy: NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #10
Good cop, bad cop. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #11
All hope is lost, republicans. Heaven's Gate is beckoning . . . heed it's call. NBachers Aug 2016 #13
That's not "Heaven's Gate!!!" LongTomH Aug 2016 #23
"A different non-threatening vew of Republicans" ?? BlueStreak Aug 2016 #15
How do we ,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #16
And we have to think ahead to that, too. PLUS the 2018 round. calimary Aug 2016 #18
Yes + gazillion Cryptoad Aug 2016 #19
They’re married to each other… CobaltBlue Aug 2016 #17
Are they kidding? "Conventional" Republican policies are terrifying, too. catbyte Aug 2016 #20
They can come up with all the "conventional" stuff they want Andy823 Aug 2016 #21
K&R... spanone Aug 2016 #22
Good luck with that! sofa king Aug 2016 #24
read Krugman edhopper Aug 2016 #25
poor things mercuryblues Aug 2016 #26
They can always see the problem in someone else, but not their own greed. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #27
ah, sweet disarray fishwax Aug 2016 #28
Sad he sait nothing about Toyota scscholar Aug 2016 #29
Why? Trump is their leader now. gwheezie Aug 2016 #30
as most sane Americans are........... MFM008 Aug 2016 #31
Republicans are Damned Martin Eden Aug 2016 #32

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
5. Interesting, I thought they'd just close ranks
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 05:54 PM
Aug 2016

and go along for the ride, trying to pretend he's sane and the whole party is thrilled with him.

I guess it's nice to know the bar can be too low for some of them.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
6. Since I'm such a bleeding heart liberal, I'd be happy to tell them how to fix this...
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:10 PM
Aug 2016

for a very large fee. Payable to the Democratic Senatorial Candidate's campaign of my choice.

Here's a teaser... It starts like this, just as you've been telling all of the minorities, women, handicapped, and underclass for the last 30 years, pick your a$$es up by your boot straps, close down the propaganda Wurlitzer, shut off the money pipes, sit down and shut up! Anything you do now is only going to make things worse. Take your licks. Get all of those highly paid consultants and think tanks you've got going to do some deep introspection and then when they fail fire their butts... (subscription applies after this)

I won't be waiting by the phone. Have your people call my people. Good day, sirs!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
7. "Damned if we do and damned if we don't"
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:13 PM
Aug 2016

The Republican Party sold its soul a long time ago.

Judgement day is coming. Sucks to be them.








bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
8. Trump voters
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:19 PM
Aug 2016

may not be as reliable as some would assume

I've only met two, but I have doubts they will make it to the polling booth

Loyalists can be visible and vocal, but that doesn't extend to all supporters

Once they hear he's losing big time they may not bother

Springslips

(533 posts)
12. bandwagon voters.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:40 PM
Aug 2016

I think there is such a thing.

Watch as many of them jump off. You may even see them start cracking jokes at his expense.

I am reading the vibe this weekend in Columbus, Ohio--not a Repub stranglehold but Trump-ets were vocal during the primary--and the feeling I get is that he's universally seen as loney, not many are vocal anymore. Even my facebook has been rendered Trumpless the last few days.

We need to keep on our game for sure--but Trump is on a deep hole--to make an understatement.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
14. Agree
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Aug 2016

Trump operatives are few on online message boards now

Only GOP operatives trying to influence Senate seats are vocal

You nailed the term. Bandwagon Voters. People who rarely vote or never
voted before. If the GOP harnesses their wagon to Trump they may not
have the horses to complete the journey

niyad

(113,344 posts)
9. "a different, non-threatening view of republicans"--in other words, an outright LIE,
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:24 PM
Aug 2016

because there is NOTHING "nonthreatening" about the pukes.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. Shorter Republican strategy:
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

"We know Trump is a hateful, racist, misogynist, xenophobic idiot, but we're stuck with him. Can't anybody feel sorry for us?"

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
15. "A different non-threatening vew of Republicans" ??
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:47 PM
Aug 2016

Hell, Ryan's plans are scarier than Trump's in a lot of ways.

So, by all means, put that plan on the table and let the voters decide which is more insane: the guy with no plans and a hot stripper wife or the guy who has lots of plans to get Medicare, Social Security and further turn the billionaires loose.

Please proceed. Sounds like a spendid strategy.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
18. And we have to think ahead to that, too. PLUS the 2018 round.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:11 PM
Aug 2016

The 2018 elections are midterms. But Bernie Sanders is running for reelection in that one. So it might be good to have him out there actively campaigning and even more personally motivated. Because the Democrats' downfall is the midterm elections - when fewer of us bother to show up.

THAT has to change. Otherwise, any gains we'll be able to make this year will be wiped out. And turned on their ear. Just as what happened in 2010. We were lucky to get the Affordable Care Act on the books before 2010. Afterwards, having lost the House that year, our President couldn't move anything farther forward. We need BOTH houses of Congress to get anything really meaningful done. Although if we do get the Senate back, a President Hillary Clinton can fill that empty Supreme Court seat, and maybe replace another justice. It'd be safe for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire, for example. She'd be replaced with another liberal.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
17. They’re married to each other…
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:01 PM
Aug 2016

The presidential nominee and the congressional incumbents and/or first-time office seekers.

The coattails effect—U.S. President and U.S. Senate—for applicable, scheduled states has been a rate of about 80 percent for same-party carriage. This has been applicable at least with the last three presidential election years—2004, 2008, and 2012.

There is no Republican politician, dealing with an election here in 2016, who can escape Donald Trump.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. They can come up with all the "conventional" stuff they want
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:46 PM
Aug 2016

Trump will come out and trash it all, while continuing to do what he does best, make an ass out of himself, and the republican party!

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
24. Good luck with that!
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:44 PM
Aug 2016

It's not going to make a lick of difference to the tens of millions of people who have been deliberately singled out and named as the enemy. Ever again.

The bigger risk is that Republican politicians, professional politicians willing to change any stance for a shot at the big-time, will simply try to infiltrate the Democratic Party, instead. That's our problem, now.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
25. read Krugman
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:55 PM
Aug 2016

GOP economics never appealed to voters, they won with racism and "God".

touting an agenda of tax breaks for the rich is a no starter.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
26. poor things
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

I and just about everyone on DU have been laughing about this since Super Tuesday. They are only just now concerned about it. No wonder why they have trump. If they were actually smart, they would not have run any of idiots they did. They would have promoted oh, wait. that was the best of their lot.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
27. They can always see the problem in someone else, but not their own greed.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:35 PM
Aug 2016

Ths solution is always for someone else to change.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
29. Sad he sait nothing about Toyota
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:54 PM
Aug 2016

I have a vehicle with two recalls that my local dealers refuse to fix.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
30. Why? Trump is their leader now.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

This is who they are, they must think we're all stupid, they just don't want to lose, if they thought they could keep their seats by backing him, they'd do it.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
32. Republicans are Damned
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:41 AM
Aug 2016

... and rightly so, for what they have done and for what they've refused to do.

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