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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:05 PM Aug 2016

I'm so fucking tired of racists.

And I'm not talking about people who may not recognize the privilege they have simply by accident of birth.

And I think giving a platform for out and out hateful racists who call our First Lady the most vile, racist names, is hardly admirable.

I've been posting over at DU's sister site and it is filled with the ugliest racism.

I just blasted them over there.

I don't know if we're allowed to link there, so I won't, but really....

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I'm so fucking tired of racists. (Original Post) cali Aug 2016 OP
I saw a sticker on a pickup today "What are two things coal and Obama doc03 Aug 2016 #1
Obviously that sticker is disgusting, narnian60 Aug 2016 #9
You see a vehicle with a Trump sticker and usually you will find doc03 Aug 2016 #12
Unbelievably hateful True Dough Aug 2016 #27
Are you talking about discussionist? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #2
Yeah, I used to post at DI a lot but don't post there anymore. The RWNJs there are very very beaglelover Aug 2016 #18
seriously. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #29
Yes cali Aug 2016 #25
yeah, whatever. People who've never had a good time in their life pissed she went to lollapalooza Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #28
the reason it's not whatever to me is that it's a site run by a liberal cali Aug 2016 #31
I just feel differently. I don't think the fact that people say fucked up things there constitutes Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #34
we disagree. I think giving a platform for racists, is not a good thing. cali Aug 2016 #35
I do hear what you're saying. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #36
Oh well, DI is a place for open discussion! I read that somewhere. Rex Aug 2016 #3
I bet. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #4
It is entertaining, every other weekend is Obama Gun Grab Raffle or Rapture Time with Jesus Rambo. Rex Aug 2016 #5
If I get really bored maybe I'll go over there for some "fun", wink wink Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #30
There's no rule against linking there, but your description is more than enough emulatorloo Aug 2016 #6
Need to go back DustyJoe Aug 2016 #7
I saw that post and some of the replies were truly disgusting. Arkansas Granny Aug 2016 #8
Which post....Cali didn't link 1...."8. I saw that post and some of the replies were..." Nancyswidower Aug 2016 #21
It is a game, and both sides play it. pintobean Aug 2016 #22
Comment deleted Photographer Aug 2016 #24
I remember when one wasn't even allowed to link to or discuss hate sites here... demmiblue Aug 2016 #10
exactly. it's a platform for hate, racism and xenophobia- not alll cons there are like that but cali Aug 2016 #32
Me too. But mostly, I am noticing that hispanics and followers of Islam, in particular, MichiganVote Aug 2016 #11
What site is this? MuttLikeMe Aug 2016 #13
Here jtuck004 Aug 2016 #14
The websites aren't the problem. The problem is that we cannot walk out of our jtuck004 Aug 2016 #15
What I have been amazed by Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #16
It makes me so sad. annabanana Aug 2016 #17
Are you really going to try to imagine those types have EVER been invited to a cool party??? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #20
That was before my time Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #38
It makes me, oh I can't even describe how sickened I am that cali Aug 2016 #26
The RW ahole racists link to DU all the time amuse bouche Aug 2016 #19
Discussionist is basically FR-Lite axiom3 Aug 2016 #23
Yeah, but it's DU's "sister site" cali Aug 2016 #33
Evil twin site grubbs Aug 2016 #37
the underside heaven05 Aug 2016 #39
The more disgusting these clowns are... Rustyeye77 Aug 2016 #40
From day 1, I've never visited DI. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #41
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #42
JPR is now DU's "sister site?" I think you may be mistaken, cali. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #43
No, discussionist cali Aug 2016 #46
Whoosh!!!!!! nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #47
They can't help themselves, that's what they were taught MrScorpio Aug 2016 #44
I'm so fucking tired of people who don't view others as worthy of life. Avalux Aug 2016 #45

doc03

(35,349 posts)
1. I saw a sticker on a pickup today "What are two things coal and Obama
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:15 PM
Aug 2016

have in common? They are both black and both should be burnt." Of course on other side was "TRUMP Make America
Great Again" They don't even try to hide it anymore.

True Dough

(17,311 posts)
27. Unbelievably hateful
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:11 AM
Aug 2016

I wouldn't give the time of day to the idiot who would sport such a despicable sticker. Less than human.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
2. Are you talking about discussionist?
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:18 PM
Aug 2016

The administrators here created it, so it would seem odd if people here weren't "allowed" to talk about it.

For a while after it started there was a concerted effort of DEMANDS to "SHUT IT DOWN!!!1111!!! RIGHT FCUCKING NOW AAREEEEERRRRREEEGGHGHGHHHH" but last time I checked, it was still there.

It - DI that is - was amusing for a couple weeks at first, but as many noticed, arguing with carrot-level IQ right wingers has limited entertainment value.


As usual, ordering people not to do something- in this case "good DU members don't post on discussionist" is counter-productive, but..... if left to their own devices rational people usually come to the right conclusion anyway.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
18. Yeah, I used to post at DI a lot but don't post there anymore. The RWNJs there are very very
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:23 PM
Aug 2016

racist and they alert swarm to no end. It just got really boring having discussions with cucumbers.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
29. seriously.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:42 AM
Aug 2016

But I'm not like "oh my god the place must be shut down". Let em have their sandbox and admin presumably gets a nice check from ad revenue. Brilliant, if you ask me.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. yeah, whatever. People who've never had a good time in their life pissed she went to lollapalooza
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:40 AM
Aug 2016

fuck em. laugh at em. feel sorry for em.



Like I said, that place lost its entertainment value quickly for me. Now its like a portapotty after 4 days of a music festival, speaking of lollapalooza.

In my experience trying to argue with people like that is a waste of time.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. the reason it's not whatever to me is that it's a site run by a liberal
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:46 AM
Aug 2016

run by the same liberal who owns DU. I like Skinner, but the lack of any moderation over there and the license given over there to ugly racist shit is shameful. I just donated to DU. It's a shame that DU is associated with Discussionist for the reasons given- and more.

http://discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=935182

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. I just feel differently. I don't think the fact that people say fucked up things there constitutes
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:52 AM
Aug 2016

an endorsement of the fucked up speech by the admins.

They've been clear from the get-go that DI was a place where people could say whatever they want, or a sort of DU3 on steroids with all the things that make DU DU, removed. It's a deliberate exercise in free expression.

It is what it is. I have no desire to go there anymore, but I also don't give a shit what people do over there. Frankly, I'd rather have them busy over there than constantly crashing and burning troll accounts over here, like many of them used to. But, YMMV of course.


Edited to add: My "whatever" was directed at the jackknob who made the comment, not you.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. I do hear what you're saying.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 04:19 AM
Aug 2016

You can always bring it up with admin directly, of course.

Still, again, having done several turns on MIRT, I have to wonder if there's less trolling of DU by those folks because they're busy over there.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Oh well, DI is a place for open discussion! I read that somewhere.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:18 PM
Aug 2016

Yeah there are some really huge stormfront types at DI, they love thems some Trump!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. It is entertaining, every other weekend is Obama Gun Grab Raffle or Rapture Time with Jesus Rambo.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:23 PM
Aug 2016

The RWingers over there are full bore Zimmermans.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. If I get really bored maybe I'll go over there for some "fun", wink wink
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:43 AM
Aug 2016

please lets hope I don't get that bored.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
6. There's no rule against linking there, but your description is more than enough
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

I'm sick of racists too, and I hate how much racism is being 'mainstreamed' and 'normalized' in political discourse. I'm not naive enough to beleive it begins and ends with Trump's ascendency. That's more of a symptom than a cause.

However I am glad some websites don't tolerate it or tacitly promote it.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
7. Need to go back
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:32 PM
Aug 2016

Back to when you could slam a president or a candidate for any office all you wanted with any vile, nasty hateful rhetoric, but family was a 'hands off' affair, even if the family was exposed and active in the campaign or day to day running of the office. But since 2000 or so, the office holders and candidates, their spouses, their children and even grandchildren are now held up to ridicule, hurtful, harmful comments, threats, internet bullying and picture photoshopping and posting. Makes you want to puke. All parties are equally guilty of it which is even sadder, there is no moral template to look up to anymore.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
8. I saw that post and some of the replies were truly disgusting.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

I sometimes get the feeling that they are trying to see who can make the most revolting statements. It's like a game.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
22. It is a game, and both sides play it.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

Too many on that site spend all their time there trying to piss off the other side. Looks like the wingnuts got to cali.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
10. I remember when one wasn't even allowed to link to or discuss hate sites here...
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:37 PM
Aug 2016

then they started one.

It boggles the mind.

$

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. exactly. it's a platform for hate, racism and xenophobia- not alll cons there are like that but
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:48 AM
Aug 2016

the strong majority are.

No moderation. And cons outnumber not only liberals but reasonable people with a shred of decency, so the racist or bigoted crap is often left to stand.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
11. Me too. But mostly, I am noticing that hispanics and followers of Islam, in particular,
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:38 PM
Aug 2016

have a very wary look about them nowadays. I'm white. So I am noticing that the discomfort level has risen way high. I don't mind for myself and I usually adopt a neutral face so as not to give people cause for worry. Makes me sad to see that anyone of my fellow citizens is fearful of being challenged b/c of their skin, beliefs etc.

Yes this stuff was there b/f Trump, but members of our society are being singled out now in the most brutal way and its so not fair. I hope that each of us can learn to live and let live.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. The websites aren't the problem. The problem is that we cannot walk out of our
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:58 PM
Aug 2016

front doors without the stench of racism pervading everything.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
16. What I have been amazed by
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:58 PM
Aug 2016

are the racism against us black people from folks in our own party. When I have people who tell me on my own face book page that I need to stop talking about race, stop posting about things being done to black people. I even had someone tell me the other day that I was making up stuff about what I had been saying has happened to me.

I mean really, you can't make up stuff about being called the n word, you really can't

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
17. It makes me so sad.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:16 PM
Aug 2016

Am I dreaming? Do I remember a time in the 60's when we all partied together and washed ourselves in the same music? Was it an illusion?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. Are you really going to try to imagine those types have EVER been invited to a cool party???
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:08 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe a sausage party with beer and "the game".

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
38. That was before my time
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:42 AM
Aug 2016

I just checked on facebook and I had yet not to my shock another white liberal get mad at me all because I said not every liberal seems to be with us when it comes to race matters and right then and there he jumps down my grill and dismisses everything I said calling me a bigot. I mean come on now. This is why race relations are getting bad. If our side can't even acknowlege what we're going though then yea they won't improve

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. It makes me, oh I can't even describe how sickened I am that
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 03:07 AM
Aug 2016

You and others have to undergo this.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
19. The RW ahole racists link to DU all the time
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:43 PM
Aug 2016

So I don't think it's a problem. The rotten racists there do not believe they are racists, especially the morons with Confederate Flag Avatars.They think Hillary meeting with a BLM group is racist. They're nuts

 

axiom3

(54 posts)
23. Discussionist is basically FR-Lite
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

I actually tried to debate some of the RWers on that site a while back, but eventually decided doing so was a waste of my time and energy. I haven't even bothered to visit that site at all for months now, and have no plans to go back in the future. The racists on Discussionist, and countless other RW websites have been crawling out of the woodwork ever since Obama took office.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
39. the underside
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:59 AM
Aug 2016

and other waste disposal areas of humankind and our bodies is DI. Always have been here, ALWAYS WILL BE. Racial, gender and life orientation hate gives the trump loving psycho-sociopaths their venue to keep us aware that this filth pervades this so-called civilized society. Human beings are always one step away from returning to cave dwelling human looking animals. ONE STEP! "why can't we use them"?(nuclear weapons for the uninformed) as quoted from the chump.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
44. They can't help themselves, that's what they were taught
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 11:02 AM
Aug 2016

They were taught to hate and fear black people and they share an open forum to express that fear and hatred. It pretty much is a demonstration of endemic white supremacy in America.

They may fail to see it, but to anyone with a lick of common sense, it's all too obvious.

To me, its fascinating to see it out in the open, as well as the resentment they have whenever others fail to share their bigoted beliefs.

If anything, it's imperative for non-racist whites to call the racists on their racism. Racism is a white peoples problem in this country, so it behooves whites to do something about it. Going after them face to face in that forum is a great start.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
45. I'm so fucking tired of people who don't view others as worthy of life.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 11:10 AM
Aug 2016

Whether racist, sexist, religious - no one has the right to label another and the decide if that person has the right to live - and live as they choose.

NO ONE.

Trump has given racists the courage to be open about their views. We must make sure his defeat is so crushing that he slinks off in humiliation.

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