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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:36 PM Aug 2016

Twitter suspends account of Melania Trump speechwriter Meredith McIver, who probably isn’t a real pe

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/twitter-suspends-account-of-melania-trump-speechwriter-meredith-mciver-who-probably-isnt-a-real-person/25566/

Days after Melania Trump gave a Republican National Convention speech which was plagiarized from an eight year old Michelle Obama speech, the Trump Organization laid the blame on her longtime speechwriter Meredith McIver. The trouble: no such person appeared to exist. Various pages depicting her life were discovered to have only been created after she was assigned the blame for the plagiarism, including a Twitter account which she primarily used to keep insisting that she was in fact a real person. But it appears that Twitter’s management has ultimately reached the opposite conclusion, suspending the account in question.

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Twitter suspends account of Melania Trump speechwriter Meredith McIver, who probably isn’t a real pe (Original Post) deminks Aug 2016 OP
What took so long!!! riversedge Aug 2016 #1
I am absolutely sure that Don the Con and his family malaise Aug 2016 #2
Someone else would have picked up on the speeches sooner or later. rocktivity Aug 2016 #8
The Obamas?? malaise Aug 2016 #9
K&R jpak Aug 2016 #3
I want to know... CherokeeDem Aug 2016 #4
There are lots of fictious trump twitter accounts. Historic NY Aug 2016 #5
Her name is an anagram for "Deceive Mr. Mirth" Recursion Aug 2016 #6
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. Stinky The Clown Aug 2016 #7
My gut agrees with your gut. Melania made good in America, but she lied and married a liar Hekate Aug 2016 #17
At one time Arianna Huffington was a right wing republican. George II Aug 2016 #23
Yes, an unsuccessful Ann Coulter wannabe. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #28
I'm going to be nice and not tell you what I think of Ms. Huffington (why did she keep that name??) George II Aug 2016 #30
I didn't say she was nice. She and her erstwhile husband swept into town here... Hekate Aug 2016 #44
He's done shit exactly like this before. Still In Wisconsin Aug 2016 #10
I agree -- Meredith McWhatever is a Trump pseudonym. King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #18
Perhaps John Miller wrote it? George II Aug 2016 #24
This certainly needs further investigation. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #11
She probably eloped with "John Miller" or something. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #12
Then what about the business of Meredith McIver being a Trump employee and working for the campaign? NBachers Aug 2016 #13
that was tripped by the trump gaffe that "mciver" worked for his corporation unblock Aug 2016 #16
i read an article - a coach - who called trump's office and talked to Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2016 #37
I'm seeing conflicting articles unblock Aug 2016 #40
It was brought in purposely tavernier Aug 2016 #14
McIver (real or fictitious) seems to be Trump's official fall guy (fall person?) thesquanderer Aug 2016 #15
The child's imaginary friend who gets blamed for breaking the lamp ??? nt King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #20
I thought she was possibly married cojoel Aug 2016 #21
That would be brilliant ! Idea for a paperback novel ?? nt King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #27
whoa... sarae Aug 2016 #32
Oh *I* remember some on this very site saying that she was real, and I was crazy LaydeeBug Aug 2016 #19
Well, if she is made up (read about a coach who talked to her a couple Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2016 #39
Yep. He even blamed her for something in some congressional report too LaydeeBug Aug 2016 #43
I think it was definitely someone on the campaign - OhZone Aug 2016 #22
can't believe I forgot about that... sarae Aug 2016 #33
There was a real speech from real speechwriter that the kids found. My theory Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2016 #41
Media just let that shit go unchecked Thrill Aug 2016 #25
I knew it. There may have been a real Meredith McIver at one point... randome Aug 2016 #26
How difficult can this be? matt819 Aug 2016 #29
that's what i'm saying! Takket Aug 2016 #31
YES!!! sarae Aug 2016 #34
It's easy enough to refute, isn't it? randome Aug 2016 #35
i want to see her LONG FORM Human resourcees paperwork!!!!!!!!!!!!! Takket Aug 2016 #36
Maybe is was a fake that was suspended or shut down. Tactical Peek Aug 2016 #38
Coach Leach has talked to Meredith McIver Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2016 #42
It appears that she's a real person (she's a registered voter, she's been mentioned in media LeftyMom Aug 2016 #45
Yeah, I said at the beginning, that had to be someone fucking around. I mean, the photoshops were Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #46

malaise

(268,968 posts)
2. I am absolutely sure that Don the Con and his family
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:45 PM
Aug 2016

plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech. They did not expect to be caught and indeed they were not caught by anyone associated with M$Greedia. It was an unemployed journalist who smelled a rat and recognized the theft.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
8. Someone else would have picked up on the speeches sooner or later.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:45 PM
Aug 2016

I think she was handed a speech by someone who didn't have to worry about it being vetted.


rocktivity

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
4. I want to know...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
Aug 2016

how in the hell the MSM allows this man to go unchallenged. Trump and company are obviously, as Fareed Zakaria, said today on his show bullshit artists. Don the Flimflam man....

Disgusting....

Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
7. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:45 PM
Aug 2016

Here's my gut feeling:

Don had the speech written. They knew it was plagiarized but, because of the thickness of the bubble walls, thought they could get away with it. After all, it was an eight year old speech.

So Don soothed her, telling her it would be all right. She was feeling like a high school kid getting all built up to her big night. Practicing and practicing.

Then BAM.

They get found out.

It all exploded.

She's mortified.

Don had to shower her with $symbols of hi$ love for her to get her to $how for his big acceptance $peech. $he $how$ up and all appear$ happy.

But she's beyond pissed. She wants all this to end.

Now the green card/immigration story bubbles up along with pictures of her girls.

This story will have legs. The M$M will try to avoid it, but they will not be able to.

Stay tuned . . . .

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
17. My gut agrees with your gut. Melania made good in America, but she lied and married a liar
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:21 PM
Aug 2016

Arianna Huffington also came to town to find a rich man, but she has more innate intelligence and focus in her little finger than Melania has in her entire penthouse.

Melania hooked up with a grifter, and she appears to be one herself, though not on his scale. Now the pretty bubbles she lives in are all popping -- and quite publicly. I'm not feeling too sorry for either of them.



George II

(67,782 posts)
30. I'm going to be nice and not tell you what I think of Ms. Huffington (why did she keep that name??)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:15 PM
Aug 2016

But I really don't have a high opinion of her.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
44. I didn't say she was nice. She and her erstwhile husband swept into town here...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:26 AM
Aug 2016

...and lavished enough money around to unseat a stodgy but respected Republican Congressman. Long story short, they didn't fit in, didn't get the concerns of the County, his reputation unravelled a bit, and her rumored dreams of running him for president came to naught.

Too bad, so sad.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
10. He's done shit exactly like this before.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 08:59 PM
Aug 2016

Served as his own spokesperson (under an assumed same), posted online using an alias, etc. etc. I have no doubt he made up this "speechwriter" person.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
18. I agree -- Meredith McWhatever is a Trump pseudonym.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:25 PM
Aug 2016

One way of avoiding the consequences if he was caught doing something
dishonest. Avoiding consequence is his best skill.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
13. Then what about the business of Meredith McIver being a Trump employee and working for the campaign?
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:11 PM
Aug 2016
Democratic PAC Files FEC Complaint Over Melania Trump's RNC Speech

Source: NBC/MSNBC

A Democratic super PAC has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission charging that the Trump campaign broke federal election law by using his corporation to advance his presidential campaign.

The complaint was filed after Meredith McIver took the blame for cribbing parts of Michelle Obama's 2008 convention speech for Melania Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention Monday night.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141525584

unblock

(52,208 posts)
16. that was tripped by the trump gaffe that "mciver" worked for his corporation
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:20 PM
Aug 2016

they can't even lie well. if they had blamed it on a campaign flunky, that might have been the end of it.

but, since they are all in way over their collective heads, they said "mciver" worked for the corporation, not realizing that that would be illegal.

*that* made people want to find out who she really was, which quickly made it evident that she was fictitious.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
40. I'm seeing conflicting articles
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:12 AM
Aug 2016

The latest guess seems to be she exists but doesn't have an online presence so "her" twitter account was a fake.

Hard to figure out what's going on because the trumpies are keeping quiet until they can figure out a better lie.

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
14. It was brought in purposely
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:11 PM
Aug 2016

to embarrass Trump at the highest level. That was just in no way a coincidence. No one in his camp recognized it as MO's speech. They couldn't nail down a culprit, so made up a phony sympathy story and "victim".

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
15. McIver (real or fictitious) seems to be Trump's official fall guy (fall person?)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:19 PM
Aug 2016

from http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html

In his books and public statements, Trump holds up this bankruptcy as yet more proof of his business genius; after all, his logic goes, he climbed out of a hole so deep few others could have done it. He even brags now about how deep that hole was. Trump falsely claimed in two of his books that he owed $9.2 billion, rather than the actual number, $3.4 billion, making his recovery seem far more impressive. (When challenged on the misrepresentation during a 2007 deposition, Trump blamed the error on Meredith McIver, a longtime employee who helped write that book. Trump testified that he recognized the mistake shortly after the first book mentioning it was published; he never explained why he allowed it to appear again in the paperback edition and even in his next book. McIver went on to garner some national recognition as a Trump scapegoat—nine years later, when Trump’s wife, Melania, delivered a speech at the Republican National Convention that was partially plagiarized from Michelle Obama, the campaign blamed McIver. But despite all this supposed sloppiness, Trump has never directed his trademark phrase “You’re fired!” at this loyal employee.)

sarae

(3,284 posts)
32. whoa...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:28 PM
Aug 2016

She sounds completely made up. Why don't they follow up on this story more?

Not that it's so important in its own right, but it is important that a presidential candidate would go to such lengths to completely fabricate a story. Combined with everything else he says and does, it makes you wonder what else he's hiding.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
19. Oh *I* remember some on this very site saying that she was real, and I was crazy
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:25 PM
Aug 2016

I hope they *know* that this will go DOWN on their permanent record.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. Well, if she is made up (read about a coach who talked to her a couple
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:09 AM
Aug 2016

times as Trump's personal assistant)...but if she is...

Why would he put her as co-author on many of his books? to have someone to blame if errors?

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
22. I think it was definitely someone on the campaign -
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:38 PM
Aug 2016

trying to sabotage her (successfully)!

Remember, this was added to the speech too!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
41. There was a real speech from real speechwriter that the kids found. My theory
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:13 AM
Aug 2016

is that she threw that out - because they probably treat her like low class shit.
Then she had to scramble - so she watched Michelle's and liked it. She probably had no idea you couldn't switch some words around and use lines. And, the kids/Trump, when they read it, were too dippy to know or to check.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. I knew it. There may have been a real Meredith McIver at one point...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:43 PM
Aug 2016

...but for whatever reason and under whatever bizarre circumstances, Trump chose to use that name as another pseudonym. I don't think she exists, either.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

matt819

(10,749 posts)
29. How difficult can this be?
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

She exists or she doesn't. How difficult can it be for someone, anyone, to find her?

Takket

(21,563 posts)
31. that's what i'm saying!
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:19 PM
Aug 2016

if she exists, go to her house and take a picture of her! are twitter accounts the only way we can prove people exist anymore????????

sarae

(3,284 posts)
34. YES!!!
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:36 PM
Aug 2016

I don't understand...they can find out all kinds of stuff these days, but they can't determine whether this is a real person?

No one has come forward to say they know her in real life, have they? This whole thing is just so bizarre; it seems like a giant joke.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. It's easy enough to refute, isn't it?
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:48 PM
Aug 2016

The campaign McIver just happens to share the same name as another Meredith McIver. Prove differently!

The campaign McIver is out of communication with the campaign. Maybe even fired when the heat gets to be too much, and no one knows where she's gone. Prove differently!

But I smell a rat. There never was a Meredith McIver associated with the campaign. Trump, for whatever bizarre reason, has been using the name for years.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. Coach Leach has talked to Meredith McIver
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:21 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/how-wsu-coach-mike-leach-and-donald-trump-developed-a-unique-friendship/

“So we’re walking by all these big buildings in New York that I’d read about in the book, and I’m thinking, what the heck, let’s call him,” Leach says.

The coach dialed information to get a number for Trump Enterprises, then called the main line, where he talked a receptionist into transferring him to Trump’s personal assistant, Meredith McIver.

Leach didn’t get to speak to Trump that day, but as he walked the streets of New York City with cabs honking in the background and his daughters exchanging amused looks as they trailed along behind him, he bonded with McIver in a phone conversation that centered on their Utah ties – he went to BYU and she’s a Utah alum.


Let me add: I think a person exists - but quite possible the McIver is a pseudonym. Someone is co-author on many of his books - because the ghost writer of Art of the Deal - said he wrote the whole thing. Trump has no patience to write a book. So he may have hire some extremely well paid writer who agrees to take the fall for whatever he wants her to take the fall for. Just guessing here of course

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
45. It appears that she's a real person (she's a registered voter, she's been mentioned in media
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:32 AM
Aug 2016

profiles before Melania-gate) but the Twitter account does not appear to be connected to her, nor does she appear to have any social media presence. For her age that's not unusual.

I looked at the address on the voter registration because I was curious if it's a Trump property. It's basically the exact opposite- a small apartment in a cute brick pre-war building. I don't want to read too much into that but it's interesting.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
46. Yeah, I said at the beginning, that had to be someone fucking around. I mean, the photoshops were
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:01 AM
Aug 2016

just that bad.



It was fucking hysterical, actually.

But what's interesting is no "real" McIver has apparently shown up anywhere, to disavow any of it.

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