As if the WSJ editorial page themselves aren't part of the problem.

For the so-called "Party of Personal Responsibility", they seem to NOT take any responsibility for........anything.


Last I checked, Boener, Ryan, et. al were more than happy to take the teabaggers aboard their party so that they win back Congress after the disastrous George W. Bush (P)residency.

are making a case to vote for Hillary. Giving her an unprecedented landslide victory may be the only way they may gain control of their party back.

but five seconds after Clinton wins (yuuuuuge!!!) on Election Night, they will go right back to being the "loyal opposition" and making wild accusations/smears against hear and we will probably end up with 50 or so more Benghazi investigations (if they still control any part of Congress).


I'd like to be wrong about this but............

where old white men will explain to rooms full of white men that they need to try to win the votes of minorities, too. "They've figured out our old dog whistle code phrases we used to disguise our racism. So what we need to do is come up with some new code phrases. That, and crank up the voter suppression laws in any states we still control."

But the only thing I see happening is that they will blame his loss on election fraud or say it was because he wasn't conservative enough. The rank and file Republicans are so far gone at this point that I don't think anything can really bring them back. We're stuck with them. The good news is that the changing demographics of the country plus younger generations that are more liberal will continue to marginalize them more and more until they become irrelevant. Eventually they will die out, and hopefully be replaced by people with a better grasp on reality. A lot of social change happens that way, which is one of the reasons why it takes so long. A younger generation sees the error in the ways of the older one, and eventually, as the older generation dies out, new attitudes become the norm. I do see that happening one day with the Republican Party, but not for a long time.

To doubt the things your religion says you should believe in, to question your faith, well, that will send you straight to Hell. The first time I heard John Lennon sing, "Imagine there's no Heaven. It's easy if you try" scared me witless. Oh, no, no, no, I could not possibly try to imagine that! I might go to Hell just for considering it. There were people who said we shouldn't go into space because that's where Heaven is, and we humans shouldn't dare to intrude on God's domain. There were people who opposed organ transplantation, especially heart transplants, because that's people playing God, and it might mess up the soul's connection to the body.

(friends with Janis ian), very smart.

But NUTS when it came to modern medicine. can't remember all the crazy stuff to which she subjected her son, even though her entire life revolved around him.

But as your analysis concludes, it's not going to happen. The Republican rank and file has gotten precisely what it wants with the Trump nomination. The loss will just further cement their closed philosophical system shut.

How can people not know this?

Watching Sunday press shows, they are all living in this fantasy that Trump still has a chance of winning.

are part of the "liberal" media and biased against Republicans. Rush says so, so it must be true. And, Breitbart, Drudge, Bill O'Reilly and the NY Post back him up, so that's like five times confirmation: internet, internet, radio, TV and newspaper.

Will be the extreme reaction of the rabid Trump supporters who will wake up and say..."i can't believe Clinton won the election.". What will their reaction be?

They are already working the "election was rigged" angle. They're getting their excuses lined up so they can all use them together on the day after.

I saw a FB post from an old acquaintance/friend. I hadn't seen her in years, but have been following her on FB. She's always seemed bright, is a graduate from UF, and a real family person, very caring. Well, her post was all about the $400,000,000 being 100 million for hostage released and "rump" better win or the world's in trouble. OMG I nearly barfed. This is so different from the image I have had of her for the past 10 years, I was just shocked. Our relationship was mainly business, so not surprised a white middle aged business person in FL would be for Drumpf, but Not her, she seemed quite intelligent and not crazy at all. I thought she might be Repug because she came from a wealthy family, but had no idea she was batshit rw. So, I have unfollowed her and moved her from my friends to my acquaintance list so I won't see her posts anymore unless she sends one directly to me. Sad how some folks who seem so smart are really totally ignorant and probably racist at heart too.

and kind of tragic actually.

Okay.

And they cannot change that. They can reasses all they want but unless the 1A is repealed and/or the Internet goes away, they will find they no longer have a party.

Abandon ship! The WSJ does not want to go to the bottom of the ocean aboard the SS GOP captained by Admiral Trump.

No.

Republican control of ANY branch of government is not healthy. The only hope for positive change is their utter and total defeat. Otherwise it's 4 more years of the same shit that's plagued us for the last 6.

Fuck that.

Extremists like Paul Ryan may appear reasonable to republicans who are slightly to their left. Ugh! I don't buy that his candidacy will devastate the GOP. They bounced back pretty quickly after Watergate. But then, Reagan was far to the right of Nixon and Ford and we lived in a very different culture. The progression of time and culture guarantees that there can never be a perfect precedent, but I wonder if some DUers with a more comprehensive grasp on history could shed some light?

*coff* WSJ Editorial page *coff*
*coff* D'Oh Scarborough *coff*


Pukes

Mass manipulation leads to mass delusion.

Karl Rove's disbelief about Ohio on election night 2012 should have been a glaring symptom. Yes, they have brainwashed their masses, but it has gotten to the point where they must be spouting their drivel in front of a mirror and have hypnotized themselves, as well.

The Karl Rove who maneuvered W into the White House in 2000 knew he was perpetrating a fraud upon the nation. The Karl Rove of 2012 never even realized that he had convinced himself of something the old Karl Rove would have instantly recognized as false.

You have a whole group of conservatives who don't believe the government is following the Constitution. They had hoped the Republican Party would redirect the country back in that direction, but from their POV have failed to do so.

Chances are at some point these people, which are a minimum of 30% of the country I would guess, are going to give up on politics and the country. I mean, they'll live here, but they'll disengage. Now some people here might say "Great! That means Democratic Party principles will go forward unopposed." Not so quick. There's nothing good about a whole swath of citizens who were majorly engaged who have decided they just don't care anymore. In order for a country to work, you have to have cooperation, and these people are just going to say fuck it. It may take 20 years, or 50, or 100, but it's coming.

I think eventually we're going to end up in a situation where we as Democrats have won the battle, but lost the country. IOW there won't be anything left to govern, because too many will see it as not worth the effort to keep it in existence.

Someone mentioned up-thread that these Republicans will attack Clinton, which is true. She's going to be getting it from all angles; the right, the far-left, the people who voted "lessor of two evils", etc.... She'll win the election, but there's going to be a large number of the population who won't trust her and won't follow her lead. The trust of government, especially at the federal level, will continue to decline. It's the later half of the 400's, and we're in Rome.