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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,190 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:45 PM Aug 2016

More and more women are now dying in childbirth, but only in America

More women are dying in childbirth in the US than in any other developed country. And experts say the problem is likely to keep getting worse.

You can see how alarming the issue is in this chart. In other countries, maternal death rates have fallen sharply since 1990. In South Korea, the rate of women dying in childbirth fell from 20.7 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1990 to 12 today. In Germany, it dropped from 18 to 6.5.

But in the United States, the opposite is happening. The rate of women dying in childbirth is going up.

This wasn’t supposed to happen. During the 20th century, the maternal death rate in the United States dropped from 607.9 deaths per 100,000 births in 1915 to 7.2 in 1987. But over the last 30 years, the maternal mortality rate trend reversed and steadily marched upward.

Pregnancy-related deaths are still rare events in the US; only about 700 women die out of 4 million live births annually. But the US is one of the few rich countries in the world where maternal mortality is steadily rising. The maternal mortality rate has more than doubled since 1987, the first year the CDC began collecting data through its pregnancy mortality surveillance system.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/more-and-more-women-are-now-dying-in-childbirth-but-only-in-america/ar-BBvo02v?li=BBnb7Kz

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More and more women are now dying in childbirth, but only in America (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 OP
Thanks insurance companies who pay only for one day in the hospital when a woman gives birth, Mass Aug 2016 #1
How to manage cardiovascular diseases causing this upswing needs more research. uppityperson Aug 2016 #2
Obesity, increased c-sections and delayed childbearing B2G Aug 2016 #3
And types 1 and 2 diabetes and the complications Ilsa Aug 2016 #8
Right Bettie Aug 2016 #12
Do some research. B2G Aug 2016 #13
Oh, you'll still get decent medical care. linuxman Aug 2016 #14
inb4 'mansplaining' Lancero Aug 2016 #15
Interesting article JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #4
Yeah, but we have more billionaires than aybody else! Go "Murka! Warpy Aug 2016 #5
Excellent points PatSeg Aug 2016 #9
Many of us are simply not KMOD Aug 2016 #6
Or getting access to affordable healthcare as we should... LanternWaste Aug 2016 #10
Yes. That too. KMOD Aug 2016 #11
There is also the issue of how a country defines maternal mortality B2G Aug 2016 #7
I love reading the replies on statistics like this. Lancero Aug 2016 #16

Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. Thanks insurance companies who pay only for one day in the hospital when a woman gives birth,
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:53 PM
Aug 2016

This is probably not the only reason, but this is certainly one.

Add to this the fact that too many women do not get the pregnancy care they need and lack maternity leave.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
8. And types 1 and 2 diabetes and the complications
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:00 PM
Aug 2016

They present in pregnancy. They usually deliver large-for-gestational age babies, and if too large, a c-section will be done, sometimes without a trial of labor. More c-sections typically means more risks for recovery, establishing breastfeeding, etc.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
12. Right
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

so it's all the women's fault that they are dying in childbirth.

Guess we need to make rules: No fat chicks, no old chicks, no c-sections.

God forbid we, as women, expect decent medical care, even if we're fat or old or have complications.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
14. Oh, you'll still get decent medical care.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

Just know that getting pregnant while obese, while much older than average, or while having other confounding issues will increase your chance of dying, despite years of medical advances.

I'm tired of people complaining about medicine when they are the biggest factor in why their particular situation didn't go right.

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
5. Yeah, but we have more billionaires than aybody else! Go "Murka!
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:58 PM
Aug 2016

Actually, it's going up for different reasons. First, the high deductible ACA policies don't allow women to access prenatal care. Nobody with a high deductible can afford to get sick or need care unless they're dying right then and there. Second, for the lucky women who have good access to health care, interventions during birth are overdone. There are too many surgical births in this country that don't need to be done. Third, for all births, discharges from the hospital are happening too soon, before some complications can be picked up.

Clearly, insurance company driven health care is failing most of us. Midwives are underutilized, deliveries going to doctors who feel time constraints and intervene surgically when what the mother needs is time to deliver normally. It's not working and it's getting worse every year.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Or getting access to affordable healthcare as we should...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:25 PM
Aug 2016

Or getting access to affordable, prenatal and women's healthcare as we should...

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
11. Yes. That too.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

I had issues during both of my labor and deliveries, and I'm very grateful that I had coverage and access to excellent care.

It is immoral that everyone is not afforded the same. Health care access for all is my #1 issue.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
7. There is also the issue of how a country defines maternal mortality
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 02:59 PM
Aug 2016

WHO uses 42 days. The CDC uses one full year.

So depending on how the country defines maternal mortality for reporting purposes, that definition can have a drastic impact on the reported rates.

Lancero

(3,012 posts)
16. I love reading the replies on statistics like this.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:03 PM
Aug 2016

So much infighting amongst both sides who think that only their stance causes these deaths, and that every other contributing factor doesn't do shit.

Increased access prenatal care? This would help no doubt, but looking at the statistics for deaths it's going to more beneficial to AA women than any other group. It'll do pretty much nothing for other racial groups. Of course, admitting to this will to some people mean you're racist against other minority women - Hell, depending on what website you're visiting you might even be accused of being racist against white women for daring to admit to this.

Medical complications arising from obesity and other loosely related diseases? It fits with the statistics - The older causes of maternal death, ones that are traditionally considered to be the result of poor quality healthcare, are drastically falling... while disease related maternal deaths are popping up to replace em. Of course, listening to the advice of medical professionals today means that you're a sexist fat shaming pig.

Is it any surprise how shitty things are getting when we're fighting amongst ourselves so much? We can't even decide on the cause, and many here are willing to throw the medical professionals - The very people who we should be listening to in regards to medical issues - under the bus all in the name of equality.

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