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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:13 AM Aug 2016

County leader to D-backs: 'Take your stupid baseball team and get out'

The Arizona Diamondbacks would like to use public money to help fund $65 million worth of upgrades to Chase Field.

The Diamondbacks (45-66) are last in the National League West and return to Chase Field Tuesday to begin a three-game series against the New York Mets.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/county-leader-to-d-backs-take-your-stupid-baseball-team-and-get-out/ar-BBvpctv?li=BBgET5V&ocid=spartanntp

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LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
1. That's two years of Zack Greinke and it's a seller's market for pitchers.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 02:36 AM
Aug 2016

Kinda shitty to rattle the cup when they could pawn one player.

ProfessorGAC

(65,248 posts)
6. As Had Been Said By Many. . .
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:34 AM
Aug 2016

. . .if expensive stadia made a lot of extra money, the owners would build them on their own. They could get a loan with a phone call.

But they don't. Things that make you go "Hmmmm".

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
11. And most if not all cities with major sports teams eventually pay for some of it
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:53 AM
Aug 2016

These leagues are multi-billion dollar industries. The franchises are luxuries, both to the owners and the city, but they're also synonymous with the city. Maybe not Arizona as much, since most of their teams are relatively new, but cities like having people think of the city when they think of the team in the city.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
12. What's interesting...........
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

is that MLB is not covered by Anti-Trust Laws. Whenever there is talk in Congress about legislating MLB, MLB dangles expansion teams in front of Congressman. There is a basic "don't vote for this and we'll bring a team, to your city/state. That's how you got the Diamond Backs, the Marlins, etc.

So once the team is there, MLB then tries to extort money from their city for stadiums, etc. In my city the Pirates have been here for over 100 years. They wanted a new stadium and voters said NAY, however the City found ways for taxpayers to pay for it. The same with old 3 Rivers stadiums, when they demolished it, there was more money owed on it, than what it cost to pay to build.
MLB & the NFL are extortionists of the extreme.

I like baseball & love football, but I as a taxpayer shouldn't be paying for organizations that are worth millions. I have not problem with government offering loans & grants for start ups & other types of businesses, but once an organization is worth millions or billions they should not be pick pockets.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,202 posts)
7. Most sports franchises practice extortion these days. Good for Maricopa County.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:52 AM
Aug 2016

I'd love to see all demands handled the same way:

"Give us money or we'll leave."

"Forget it. Bye."

Shortens negotiation time considerably.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
9. Seattle did that.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:32 AM
Aug 2016

I think the town in general misses the Supersonics, but it's surprisingly easy to ignore the NBA.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
13. Did you miss the part where Seattle promptly tried to steal another city's team?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:52 PM
Aug 2016

Because we didn't.

Bwahahahaha,
Sacramento

PS You guys can have Kevin Johnson though.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
15. Poaching is basically the only way to get one
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

In fact, it's always been the most expedient way - ask the Utah Jazz. Ask St. Louis how it feels to get their stolen Rams stolen back.

Hell, remove the splinter from thine own eye: your town stole the Kings from KC, who stole it from Cincy, who stole it from Rochester.

My point stands: refuse the arena/stadium extortion, and you lose your team. Sac paid up. Seattle didn't.

And after the 5 women on the Seattle City Council refused to vacate a meaningless 2-block section of an industrial street, we're unlikely to ever get a new arena built in this town. It will have to be in a suburb like Bellevue.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. The only baseball game I've ever seen was at that stadium.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 07:55 AM
Aug 2016

A friend dragged me to see them play the Sawx while we were in the area for a convention. The only good thing I can say for the game was that it was an absolute drubbing and was over mercifully fast.

Nice little stadium, though the DBacks fans were outnumbered 5-1 at home.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
10. Red Sox fans travel well
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 11:34 AM
Aug 2016

better than any other team - in Seattle it will be half and half. Yankees and White Sox fans show up, too. Big cities, lots of expats.

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