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John McCain and Sarah Palin did not take the white house, and no matter how you feel about President Obama's efforts in behalf of progressives it can not be denied that he saved us from the tragedy that would have been a 2008 Republican White House. We would be deep in the depths of a Depression that would have dwarfed our experience of the 1930s, the war against Iraq would have continued in full force, or education system would have been in the hands of christian finatics, and any dissent in the public would have been brutally suppressed.
So like him or not, President Obama's presence, and continued presence, in the White House, is the only thing between us and what would quite predictably be the fall of the nation.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)That argument doesn't sway most of Pres. Obama's detractors, however.
Your last sentence is, imo, too true. Our nation cannot move forward under Republican leadership. It can only recede.
Welcome to DU!
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)a President McCrazy and Carobou Barbie, we would easily have had 25% unemployment. One shudders to think of how much worse it could have and would have been.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)There are more adamant detractors that couldn't be swayed if they were perched in the crow's nest of the Titanic. You've agreed that it "could/would be worse", which is only borderline detraction.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Unlike the apologists who believe he's saving the magic for term 2, I predict he'll double down on all the Third Way Crap. Seem's to me it's the ultra faithful who could be feeling the most rage and misery by the end of his time in office.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I don't see saving the magic for the second term at all. I see further progress on the things he has managed to do despite unprecedented Republican obstructionism.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Rose Colored Glasses.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)There is always room for improvement, but I was never one of those that thought he was the Messiah. Although, when you look a little more closely at the House Republicans...hmmmmmmm...
We need to take the House and keep the Senate.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Exactly.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Well played.
Dammit dion, you gotta quit it!
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I don't think the OP was suggesting that. It's something we can all agree on, but somehow you managed to find a way to piss on Obama even with this. So kudos for you.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Lala-Land is no substitute for utopia.
I feel your pain!
Lawlbringer
(550 posts)spin it into such a way that Obama can do no right.
Personally, I think the President's doing a good job. Not great, but certainly not bad. And it's 100000000000000 times better than it would have been under the angry and stupid banner. But I'm a Democrat, so I'm part of the "sheeple" as the most hardcore anti-Obama Libertarian and Republican doofuses like to call anyone who doesn't mirror their (their leaders') opinions.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)For series.
MrTriumph
(1,720 posts)And you are speculating what would have happened with a McCain presidency. No one knows.
What we do know is Pres. Obama has been a huge disappointment.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)No. That's not it.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
leftstreet
(36,110 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)ThomThom
(1,486 posts)something has to change
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)One prolific poster here is on record of choosing 2008 when asked "If you could overturn one election since Ford vs Carter, which one would it be?"
That DUer chose 2008. Not 1980. Not 2000.
2008.
Let that sink in.
Sid
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)It was one of those days I almost walked away from here for good.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
BumRushDaShow
(129,326 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)The Vietnam War isn't still going on, nor has Lyndon LaRouche ever been elected to the Presidency.
The Yellowstone caldera hasn't exploded, more good news.
There is no zombie invasion & Abe Lincoln killed all the vampires as well.
yay
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am not pleased that Obama signed off on the bail-out of bad financial institutions that wrecked the economy. Yes, he "saved" us from a depression, but I am not sure that bailing out rich people is in the best interests of the American people.
So I argue here: http://laelth.blogspot.com/2011/01/turning-american-ship-of-state.html
-Laelth
Bake
(21,977 posts)They would argue that McLame/Failin would have been paradise!
Why? Because facts don't matter to them.
Bake