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catbyte

(34,390 posts) Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:48 AM Aug 2016

What the hell am I mising here? I'm watching Morning Joe (i know, I know)

and they're all saying that Don the Con is preventing legitimate criticism of Obama & Clinton for creating the environment that allowed ISIL to thrive by pulling troops out of Iraq in 2011.

I thought that President Obama was honoring an agreement that Bush the Lesser made, and that if he ignored it he would be in violation of an international agreement. So why is it HIS fault and not Bush the Lesser's?!?

I should probably just stop watching MSNBC, because I have heard this argument brought up on other shows, too.

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What the hell am I mising here? I'm watching Morning Joe (i know, I know) (Original Post) catbyte Aug 2016 OP

Details, details...they can't be bothered with details. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #1

Well, that same group this morning thinks DURHAM D Aug 2016 #2

Thanks for using my nick-name, "The Lesser." I saw it on the wall at Windsor castle lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #3

Because it's a republican talk show. I would expect them to use republican talking points. mucifer Aug 2016 #4

What is that? That it was the bush administration's invasion of Iraq based on lies that gave still_one Aug 2016 #5

Iraq insisted we leave OR ELSE Cicada Aug 2016 #6

Trump is on record as being, like most Americans, in support of removing our troops then Johonny Aug 2016 #7

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)

1. Details, details...they can't be bothered with details.

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:48 AM

Aug 2016

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)

2. Well, that same group this morning thinks

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:50 AM

Aug 2016

that racism, xenophobia and sexism is "Populism".

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)

3. Thanks for using my nick-name, "The Lesser." I saw it on the wall at Windsor castle

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:51 AM

Aug 2016

There are so many kings listed and so often hae the same first name that many had "The greater" nad "The lesser." It was perfect for shrub so I used it on here back in the day.

Nice to see it stuck around. When something fits, it sticks.

mucifer

(23,545 posts)

4. Because it's a republican talk show. I would expect them to use republican talking points.

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:58 AM

Aug 2016

Put Bill Press on your radio. You will feel better and get real information.

still_one

(92,190 posts)

5. What is that? That it was the bush administration's invasion of Iraq based on lies that gave

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:16 AM

Aug 2016

birth to ISIS?

Nah, we don't want to report the truth, let's continue to make garbage up

Cicada

(4,533 posts)

6. Iraq insisted we leave OR ELSE

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:21 AM

Aug 2016

We had an agreement that our troops could not be tried in Iraqi courts for killing people. As US soldiers and contractors killed lots of civilians (collateral murder is the phrase our military used for it I think). Iraqi politicians got heavy political pressure to punish American soldiers. Therefore Iraqi president Malarkey refused to extend our free kill rights and Bush refused to leave our soldier contractors at risk of Iraqi justice. So they signed the agreement that we would leave on a certain date. Iraqi politicians are there to steal as much money as humanly possible and they were not going to permit our soldiers to turn the Iraqi population against them. We had no choice but to leave since American voters would go ape shit if one of our murderers had to face punishment.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)

7. Trump is on record as being, like most Americans, in support of removing our troops then