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Harvard economist warns $700 gold by mid 2017. (Original Post) yellowcanine Aug 2016 OP
So, what you are saying was it for stupid for all those guys to take Rush & Beck's FSogol Aug 2016 #1
Maybe gold jewelry will come down in price and I can PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #2
That was my first thought as well. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #30
LOL! PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #36
I'd love that too. Eventually I'd like to get a somewhat shorter chain for my heavy pendant... Hekate Aug 2016 #39
Gold is hyperinflated and has been for a few years Warpy Aug 2016 #3
Thom Hartman and Ed Schultz both have hawked gold. HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #11
There is going to be another crash Warpy Aug 2016 #18
Recessions are pretty regular, the selling of fear of them even more so. HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #20
You're right. amandabeech Aug 2016 #21
Agreed on all counts Warpy Aug 2016 #23
Strange times we live in. n/t amandabeech Aug 2016 #34
I agree, he has a good track record. I've posted before that we are CK_John Aug 2016 #4
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #7
Is that after New York votes for Trump and the collapse of Sears destroys the Squinch Aug 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #13
But you have been predicting Sears' demise for 8 or so years. FSogol Aug 2016 #19
You have a better memory than I and why would it matter? CK_John Aug 2016 #24
No, really I'm just an average DU reader with a memory for the absurd. Squinch Aug 2016 #25
That's ok, just read the op and be truthful about it. I asked if NY could CK_John Aug 2016 #32
You have many dire concerns. Which you seem to regularly pose and then delete. Squinch Aug 2016 #35
Just to be clear, I think this guy is a whack job, but he might be right about gold. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #15
I am basically cash free now yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #16
AI was a decade or two off when I first heard about it in the sixties scscholar Aug 2016 #33
You're not kidding. forest444 Aug 2016 #5
Thom Hartmann fans, too. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #6
Gold is pretty much buoyed by older baby boomer's obsession with it ansible Aug 2016 #8
Well, at least it will be cheaper... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #10
What part of Todd Frick'n Hoffman finally learns how to gold mine... and then theprice collapses HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #12
And most of the Bering Sea Gold Submariner Aug 2016 #29
Let me guess. This "harvard economist" will be glad to sell you some gold NOW. HURRY! BUY NOW!!1! PSPS Aug 2016 #14
Heh. Not gold but some other investment of course. He is a whack job. If he is correct about gold yellowcanine Aug 2016 #17
SOMEbody is always right about this DFW Aug 2016 #22
Let is sink back to 400. Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #26
If you looked around a bit I bet you could find one that predicts $7000 gold. If I had doc03 Aug 2016 #27
Not gonna happen. roamer65 Aug 2016 #28
The one thing I've learned about economists' predictions in my 71 years is... Binkie The Clown Aug 2016 #31
Prices may go up, they may go down. AngryAmish Aug 2016 #37
Anyone here ever read A Random WalkDown Wall Street? AngryAmish Aug 2016 #38
if there is enough fear of deflation that gold falls to $700 next year, Angel Martin Aug 2016 #40

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
1. So, what you are saying was it for stupid for all those guys to take Rush & Beck's
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:33 PM
Aug 2016

advice and buy a commodity when it was at it's highest price?

Hekate

(90,788 posts)
39. I'd love that too. Eventually I'd like to get a somewhat shorter chain for my heavy pendant...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:05 AM
Aug 2016

The current one drops the pendant down my blouse and into my cleavage -- not that I'm complaining, mind you!

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
3. Gold is hyperinflated and has been for a few years
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Aug 2016

thanks in large part to talking heads on right wing TV and radio pushing it at unsophisticated people.

Eventually, the price will fall. It has to, it has lost too much purchasing power, having far outstripped the inflation rate.

Gold bugs hope to keep the price high just long enough for inflation to catch up to it. That just hasn't happened, deflationary pressures have just been too strong.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. Thom Hartman and Ed Schultz both have hawked gold.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

Hartman did it in association with his book portending the crash of 2016.

Ad revenue is ad revenue as far as corporations are concerned and talking heads do the ads to get access, and paychecks.

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
18. There is going to be another crash
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

We can no longer avoid it, the window to pass appropriate legislation was small and Congress was conservative. However, anyone who puts it on a timetable is a fool. These things always seem to come out of the blue because no one save a small circle of financiers will ever see it coming and half of them won't believe it.

FWIW, house "for sale" signs are almost at 2006 levels around here. I counted them on my way to the market today.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
21. You're right.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:14 PM
Aug 2016

The Republicans would not agree to sufficient spending on items other than tax cuts. The Germans have forced austerity in Europe, too. Japan has been in bad shape for at least 20 years.

As a result, the only stimulus has come from unbelievably low interest rates from the Federal Reserve and other central banks sometimes coupled with buying back bonds and even stocks. All that does is inflate stock, bond and general asset prices.

In my view, corporations do not employ nearly enough people, and folks are forced to work harder for the same or less money. If corporations hired enough people so that everyone had a reasonable number of hours and paid them fairly, there would be demand for actual products and people would be more productive per hour of work.

Instead, we have many unemployed, many stressed out employees and very low demand.

It is not sustainable, but it will be propped up as long as possible. Of course, that will only make the next crash even worse.

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
23. Agreed on all counts
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:19 PM
Aug 2016

In addition to the "for sale" signs, I've also noticed a definite increase in the number of "let me buy your house for CASH" come-ons I get in the mail. Either someone wants to put up a strip mall on the block or some plutocrat is betting on a strong rental and poor sales economy.

Sorry, guys, it's not much of a house, but it's all mine.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
4. I agree, he has a good track record. I've posted before that we are
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:47 PM
Aug 2016

going to see 60-70% unemployment by 2020 due to technology upheaval.

Here are some examples of things that will take 20-30 million jobs out of our economy.

Reference:
Robot teacher conducts first class in Tokyo school.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/5311151/Robot-teacher-conducts-first-class-in-Tokyo-school.html

Autonomous-driving Volvo convoy takes road in Spain.
http://phys.org/news/2012-05-autonomous-driving-volvo-convoy-road-spain.html

In Sweden, a Cash-Free Future Nears.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/international/in-sweden-a-cash-free-future-nears.html

Squinch

(51,004 posts)
9. Is that after New York votes for Trump and the collapse of Sears destroys the
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

Democratic party?

Because I like to know the timeline for these things...

Response to Squinch (Reply #9)

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
32. That's ok, just read the op and be truthful about it. I asked if NY could
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:56 PM
Aug 2016

be in play and I think I stated it could be.

That of course was before dumpbo made fun of a Gold Star mother.

Also I didn't blame Hillary for the all the economic outlets reporting the closing of big name box stores.

But her campaign better get ahead of this is big news, right at the beginning of back to school sales period.

Squinch

(51,004 posts)
35. You have many dire concerns. Which you seem to regularly pose and then delete.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Aug 2016

And I have never been anything BUT truthful about it.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
15. Just to be clear, I think this guy is a whack job, but he might be right about gold.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:56 PM
Aug 2016

We have been warned for years that automation, technology etc will destroy jobs - yes it does, but more jobs are created - and usually better ones.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. I am basically cash free now
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

Would not hurt me a bit. Most people are cashless especially the young.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
33. AI was a decade or two off when I first heard about it in the sixties
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 07:01 PM
Aug 2016

I'm still waiting.

You're nuts if you think that we're suddenly going to make many times the amount of progress in three years than we made in the five decades before.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
5. You're not kidding.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:52 PM
Aug 2016

I know of one such case exactly.

A prominent local OB/GYN retired a few years back - not rich, but quite comfortably. Widowed as he was, he remarried in 2010 and moved to the seashore.

His new wife, unfortunately, was a raving Glenn Beck-watching, Red Dawn-renting tea party type (and a real bigot); moreover she has a very dominant personality, while her husband is a gentle soul who's probably never raised his voice in his life.

Before long, she had him investing large sums in gold contracts and was sending everyone she knew (including yours truly) emails advising them to do likewise.

"If Obama's reelected," she warned, "we'll need to stock up on bullets and canned tomatoes too."

Well, Obama was reelected, the price of gold plummeted by 40% (but much more in the case of futures contracts), and our friend the good doctor had to move back and resume his practice.

I'm just glad it's something he loves doing, which pays very well besides. He's a real gentleman and didn't deserve this.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
8. Gold is pretty much buoyed by older baby boomer's obsession with it
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:05 PM
Aug 2016

As they die out the price of it will drop. Gold fever is curable, I predict it'll eventually go the same way that silver did.


HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. What part of Todd Frick'n Hoffman finally learns how to gold mine... and then theprice collapses
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

doesn't make absolutely perfect sense?

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
29. And most of the Bering Sea Gold
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:50 PM
Aug 2016

cast of characters will probably be on food stamps soon thereafter since they seem to be barely hanging on.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
17. Heh. Not gold but some other investment of course. He is a whack job. If he is correct about gold
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

it is a stopped clock kind of situation.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
22. SOMEbody is always right about this
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:19 PM
Aug 2016

Whoever it is gets some recognition, and can then sell a few hundred thousand worth of investment advice newsletters for a while--until he gets it drastically wrong, and the new guru takes his place.

If this guy is so convinced that gold will drop from its current level of about $1335 to $700, then he should short ten thousand ounces for delivery in one year, and cash in his $6 million next August. Congratulations if he's right. Condolences on his ruin if he's wrong.

My bet? He's not going to risk a cent.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
26. Let is sink back to 400.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

It's overpriced anyways. The economic conditions do not justify the cost of gold.
Plus, the reich wingers will rightfully get screwed when the price falls back to where it belongs.

doc03

(35,364 posts)
27. If you looked around a bit I bet you could find one that predicts $7000 gold. If I had
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

listened to some of those Harvard economists I would be eating cat food today.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
28. Not gonna happen.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:35 PM
Aug 2016

A German bank is already passing negative interest rates on to retail customers.

As that picks up speed in Europe and eventually the US, physical cash and PM's are going to become very popular.

Gold and silver do well in mattress money economies.

Paper gold vs physical gold is now leveraged somewhere around a ratio of 400-500 to 1. I predict in the near future that the paper price and physical price will decouple, with physical far outpacing the paper price.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
31. The one thing I've learned about economists' predictions in my 71 years is...
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:53 PM
Aug 2016

...they are almost always wrong.

Throwing darts is usually more accurate than economist predictions. That's why they call it "the dismal science".

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
37. Prices may go up, they may go down.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:15 PM
Aug 2016

The fact that an economist, of all people, makes this prediction means they are incompetent in their field.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
40. if there is enough fear of deflation that gold falls to $700 next year,
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:12 AM
Aug 2016

it won't be just fans of Beck and Rush who will be in trounble

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