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meow2u3

(24,764 posts) Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:02 PM Aug 2016

CHARGE Donald J. Trump, 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - TREASON

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-donald-j-trump-18-us-code-ss-2381-treason

Donald Trump has incited Russia to hack into and publish Hillary Clinton's private emails. The Republican presidential candidate is openly ENCOURAGING a foreign government to take illegal actions that would influence a US election. This is the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. This has gone from being a matter of politics to being a national security issue.

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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CHARGE Donald J. Trump, 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - TREASON (Original Post) meow2u3 Aug 2016 OP

Look out below! Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #1

everyone should K&R Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #12

Ugh, stop. Daemonaquila Aug 2016 #2

👍 deathrind Aug 2016 #4

People in his campaign received millions from Ukraine and suddenly trumps Ukraine policy was changed onecaliberal Aug 2016 #5

Right SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #10

Perhaps Sedition? Homer Wells Aug 2016 #13

I wonder if Title 18 has something that covers Uponthegears Aug 2016 #3

We are not at war with Russia. And Trump has not given the Russians aid or comfort. Vattel Aug 2016 #6

Posting this sort of nonsense makes us look foolish. tritsofme Aug 2016 #7

If it comes out that he's been selling them national security secrets from his breifings... D23MIURG23 Aug 2016 #8

I still have some trouble with this Jarqui Aug 2016 #9

K&R Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #11

Kingofalldems

(38,459 posts)

1. Look out below!

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:04 PM

Aug 2016

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)

12. everyone should K&R

Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:34 AM

Aug 2016

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)

2. Ugh, stop.

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:06 PM

Aug 2016

Just because "Try ___ for treason!!!!" has become the right-wing's favorite mouth fart whenever a politician doesn't agree with them, doesn't mean that we should pick up the habit.

Trump. Hasn't. Committed. Treason.

He. Has. Blown. His. Stupid. Fat. Mouth. Off.

Like. Thousands. Of. People. On. Social. Media. Every. Day.

It's a completely idiotic, irresponsible thing for a candidate to do. But it's not treason. Win the election. Make him crawl back under his rock.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)

4. 👍

Reply to Daemonaquila (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:09 PM

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onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)

5. People in his campaign received millions from Ukraine and suddenly trumps Ukraine policy was changed

Reply to Daemonaquila (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:10 PM

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SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)

10. Right

Reply to Daemonaquila (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:59 PM

Aug 2016

Let them own the "Lock em Up" chant

Homer Wells

(1,576 posts)

13. Perhaps Sedition?

Reply to Daemonaquila (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:20 AM

Aug 2016

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)

3. I wonder if Title 18 has something that covers

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:08 PM

Aug 2016

Criminal idiocy.

Vattel

(9,289 posts)

6. We are not at war with Russia. And Trump has not given the Russians aid or comfort.

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:16 PM

Aug 2016

So no, he has not committed treason.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)

7. Posting this sort of nonsense makes us look foolish.

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:18 PM

Aug 2016

Trump is guilty of many things, treason is not one of them.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)

8. If it comes out that he's been selling them national security secrets from his breifings...

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:44 PM

Aug 2016

or promising them influence if he becomes president in exchange for money or material support, then by all means. But let's go ahead and wait for those revelations. No need to jump the gun, and no need file charges based on bluster.

I'm sure FBI and/or CIA are looking into Trump's relationship with Russia...

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)

9. I still have some trouble with this

Reply to meow2u3 (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:56 PM

Aug 2016

"has incited Russia to hack into"

The FBI has Hillary's server that does not have the missing emails. Somebody hacked those years ago.

So Trump was not advocating Russia hack into Hillary's private emails. Trump was saying (paraphrased) "if Russia already has them, the US media would love to see them"

Hillary said the emails she deleted were not related to the State Department - they were her private emails. A lot of folks do not believe her. But Trump is basically saying "send Hillary's private emails to the US media"

Hillary's private emails should not be a big concern for the US government if she's told the truth. Obviously, it's a personal issue for Hillary's privacy. But it only gets really problematic for the country if Hillary has lied.

I can't stand Trump. I'm enjoying his campaign swirling down the toilet to the sewer where he belongs. But this one didn't jump out at me like many of the others.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)

11. K&R

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:01 PM

Aug 2016

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