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catbyte

(34,403 posts) Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:26 PM Aug 2016

I keep hearing Manafort saying, "I've never received a single off the books cash payment..."

But he never said anything about not taking SEVERAL off the books cash payments. I don't trust that sleaze bag any farther than I could throw Trump Taj Mahal--either before or after the Orange Shitgibbon declared bankruptcy. He'd do weaselly word parsing like that--just like his boss. Wouldn't he have said ANY cash payments instead of A SINGLE cash payment if he was innocent? Maybe I'm being too nit picky. And Don the Co has the nerve to call President Obama, a man more worthwhile and decent than he could ever hope to be--pathetic. Look in the mirror, you two-bit hustler, because you are the most pathetic excuse for a human being I've ever seen.

This whole thing reeks.

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I keep hearing Manafort saying, "I've never received a single off the books cash payment..." (Original Post) catbyte Aug 2016 OP

If it is off the books cash payment, it's off the books Greywing Aug 2016 #1

I keep hearing Manafort say talk of plagiarism in Melania's speech was "crazy". Lies for living. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #2

There are many ways to pay off someone other than 'cash' procon Aug 2016 #3

Could it have been a non cash payment? lapucelle Aug 2016 #4

yeap, he used every weasel word he could in trying to disconnect himself from Russian money uponit7771 Aug 2016 #5

Because the ledger of cash payments was on the books Generic Brad Aug 2016 #6

I thought the alleged payment was in a book, handwritten. That would not be off the book, but in it. Festivito Aug 2016 #7

Whenever I hear Manafort saying, "I've never received a single off the books cash payment..." DBoon Aug 2016 #8

some questions for manafort: Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #9

He is a paid liar for Trump, he may convince the FOX listeners but it is not Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #10

He's a pathological liar does he think anyone believes him onecaliberal Aug 2016 #11

Manafort, Black & Stone keeps 7 sets of books, though. Mc Mike Aug 2016 #12

Rachel Maddow is on at 11PM central. she did a fantastic segment Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #13

Greywing

(1,124 posts)

1. If it is off the books cash payment, it's off the books

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:43 PM

Aug 2016

You only have his word that he never took anything unless there is some actual documentation forthcoming. As for his word it's not worth much IMHO.

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)

2. I keep hearing Manafort say talk of plagiarism in Melania's speech was "crazy". Lies for living.

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:52 PM

Aug 2016

procon

(15,805 posts)

3. There are many ways to pay off someone other than 'cash'

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:55 PM

Aug 2016

The rich get richer because they can hide their money. There's stocks, bonds, investment income, trusts, deeds, partnerships. Maybe a nice direct transfer to his offshore account.

lapucelle

(18,276 posts)

4. Could it have been a non cash payment?

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:56 PM

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uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

5. yeap, he used every weasel word he could in trying to disconnect himself from Russian money

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:57 PM

Aug 2016

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)

6. Because the ledger of cash payments was on the books

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:02 PM

Aug 2016

Technically he is telling the truth. Technically.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)

7. I thought the alleged payment was in a book, handwritten. That would not be off the book, but in it.

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:04 PM

Aug 2016

DBoon

(22,369 posts)

8. Whenever I hear Manafort saying, "I've never received a single off the books cash payment..."

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:05 PM

Aug 2016

I keep thinking of this:

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)

9. some questions for manafort:

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:16 PM

Aug 2016

this, from the straight dope forum:

Did you receive any payments not in cash form?

Did you receive multiple payments rather than a single payment?

Did you do work for agents representing the governments of Ukraine or Russia?

Manafort openly worked for the (then) ruling party of Ukraine, and presumably was paid for said work, so that's not really in question.

The issue here is whether he, or someone under his aegis, received off the books, cash (or other) payments. That would presumably indicate that he was providing services beyond normal campaign consulting he acknowledged.

And one suspects you don't get paid millions in physical cash, with the only record being a hand-written leger, if the payer, payee, or both aren't up to something sketchy.

not one person in the at least ten segments I saw on this today brought up any of these points

not ONE

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

10. He is a paid liar for Trump, he may convince the FOX listeners but it is not

Reply to catbyte (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:51 PM

Aug 2016

Working for me. Audit his taxes, he is hiding and lying.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)

11. He's a pathological liar does he think anyone believes him

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:58 PM

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Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)

12. Manafort, Black & Stone keeps 7 sets of books, though.

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Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:35 PM

Aug 2016

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)

13. Rachel Maddow is on at 11PM central. she did a fantastic segment

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Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:00 AM

Aug 2016

on manafort, most of which I missed

what I saw was better than any other coverage I've seen today, and I've been specifically watching for this since 2AM this past morning

not to be missed....she starts off with a tie in to the Cuban missile crisis, then segues into manafort

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