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Rio 2016: Gabby Douglass Olympics experience fits the pattern of how we treat black female athletesUpdated by Alex Abad-Santos @alex_abads alex@vox.com Aug 15, 2016, 2:20p
The hostile double standard that Gabby Douglas faces
Earlier this past week, there was a narrative that Douglas, who has represented the United States in two Olympics and devoted her life to these teams, is an unpatriotic, bad American.
The gist: Douglas didnt put her hand over her heart when the national anthem was played during Team USAs medal ceremony, and is therefore a terrible representative of America.
Heres the double standard.
When the anthem was played during Michael Phelpss medal ceremony for his win in the 200-meter butterfly, someone chanted "O!" a tradition in Baltimore that celebrates the Baltimore Orioles (Phelps was born in the city). He began laughing, cracking up on the podium. Yet no one has accused Phelps of hating America.
http://www.vox.com/2016/8/15/12476322/gabby-douglas-rio-olympics-racism
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)Thanks very much for posting. This article hits a lot of truths and should make many uncomfortable with the actions of their fellow "'Muricans". I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone and it's heartbreaking to this young lady be bullied and attacked like so many other prominent African American females....
Anyway, I recommend everyone taking a look at the article.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Phelps gets zero criticism and poor Gabby gets dumped on.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)very curious to see if anyone would try to make a big deal out of it. Of course they didn't!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I feel so sorry for our girls in Rio winning medals in our name only to be attacked for it.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Douglas' treatment was beyond shameful
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Remember in 2012 there was a huge deal made about her hair style? Good grief, she's an amazing athlete, but that can't be what these cretins focus on. Gotta find fault, no matter how bogus.
phylny
(8,380 posts)other African Americans. Most white people honestly don't know much about ethnic hair to begin with.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/02/gabby-douglas-takes-two-olympic-golds-and-hair-criticism.html
WRT hand over her heart, I'm sorry an Olympic champion has to even deal with it. She's spectacular, as all our women were.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)and were criticizing her hair from a different angle. But, actually, I don't think we can divorce the influence of racism and misogyny from the criticisms of her hair, even from members of her own community. I think we're, most all of us, influenced by prejudices, expectations, and stereotypes about beauty, and those do in some way play into the issue of black women's hair.
As for the flag salute issue, I agree with Casey Cipriani at bustle.com:
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No one has called it disrespectful or unpatriotic, with articles explaining the laughter by saying that it's totally OK and citing Phelps' hometown pride. It's a clear double standard that folks are criticizing Douglas, a tremendous athlete, for simply standing respectfully, while Phelps' flub is only considered adorable.
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And really, neither athlete should have their actions criticized or analyzed. While these medal ceremonies may have gotten repetitious for Phelps, what with 21 medals and all, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to smile, laugh, wave, sing, or do whatever he chooses to within reason on that podium while he receives his medals, as there are zero official team rules about how to act during that event. But the fact that his laughter was considered fine while Douglas' stance was considered unpatriotic points to a major double standard.
Also, no doubt many who criticize Douglas for failing to follow US code for saluting the flag are guilty themselves of failing to follow other parts of that code regarding the flag. For instance:
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speakers desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)She should be CELEBRATED for her abilities, not this garbage being spewed at her.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)In 2012, McKayla Maroney got vilified and smeared for making a frown and smirk on the podium for a 10th of a second. And she's white.
One of the Russian female gymnasts in the past has been attacked for her attitude and demeanor. Again, she's white.
It may have more to do with gender. And the expectations that society puts on each gender and their behavior. Men may have more latitude to express their disappointments and frustrations without being criticized for it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)What an insult to that poor kid!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Phelps has over 20 of the things, let this young lady have her night.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)People fucking suck.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... to her chest during the anthem aren't necessarily all racists.
I'm sure that many of them are just overly-judgmental freaks. I call them "Nancy Grace types."
I'm white. I attended an Ohio State game a few years ago with my brother, and I kept hearing some woman behind us yelling "take off your cap" during the national anthem. I wondered who the heck kept interrupting the anthem with such yelling, so I eventually turned around and realized that she was looking toward me and my brother. I then looked at him and saw that his OSU cap was still on his head (although he held his hand to his chest).
The woman was red-faced over it! She was seated about 10 rows behind us, so it's possible that people near her suffered some hearing damage. I mentioned it to my brother, and he replied that he didn't give a shit what that crazy woman wanted him to do.
My niece's father-in-law, a retired CEO, used to actually snatch caps off people's heads in restaurants! My niece's husband was embarrassed by it as a child.
There's some unbearably judgmental people around.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... aggression like this that don't get the benefit of the doubt when its aimed at an other.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.During a rendition of the national anthem
(1) when the flag is displayed
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
Yeah, there is actually a law for this. Of course the first amendment makes it impossible to prosecute any civilian citizen for not following this. But that won't stop idiots in the crowd from yelling at you. Be prepared to stand your ground.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)My brother knew the "rule" too.
His eyes are extremely sensitive to light from a genetic condition that causes vision loss that's similar to macular degeneration, so the cap served a function for him (in addition to sunglasses). He keeps the curtains closed in his apartment most of the time, especially if it's sunny outside.
MLB players (of all colors) don't always follow it either. I started paying closer attention after the incident with my brother.