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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Republicans tried to sink Obama. Instead, the party imploded.
Richard Wolffe - The Guardian
If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician not the advancement of your own policies it fans the flames of extremism
The GOP leadership chose to make Obama unacceptable, unpalatable and un-American. On the night of his first inauguration, House Republican leaders met at a Washington steakhouse to plot their path back to power. They would not reform their policies or consider the root cause of their defeat. Instead, they would oppose Obama on everything, well before he tried to pass a giant stimulus bill or healthcare reform.
They needed to deny him a reputation for bipartisanship and mainstream politics, and they succeeded. He wasnt reasonable; he was an ideologue. His vision of healthcare reform wasnt a free-market system based on Republican plans; it was a socialist takeover that would destroy the American way of life. He was inviting terrorist attacks on the homeland, not hunting down Osama bin Laden. He was acting in unconstitutional ways because he wasnt really American at all.
The party of Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann and Roger Ailes had turned him into their own kind of freak.
Before he finished his second year in office, Obama was such an object of Republican loathing that the Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell could say with impunity that the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician not the advancement of your own policies through debate or legislation then you are already in pretty desperate shape. You render it impossible to compromise with your opponents, and you fan the flames of extremism that will burn anyone in the center.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism
Wolffe nails it.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)The GOP gerrymandered house reps used their seats to try to avenge their own ego losses. That's NOT why they were put in office.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)and I don't mean to make this personal to you, but "voters want real progress" just does not square with reality.
It only because Trump is THIS bad that things are where they are now.
Put Rubio, Bush, even Cruz in this election and it is at best a toss up now, the senate would be safely theirs, ect.
In my entire adult life - three decades now republican's have been complete jackasses, and increasingly worse in tone and demeanor.
And, the only two times they were held accountable where when Bush completely fucked the country up in 08 and 10, and then for no reason whatsoever, other than them throwing a fucking hissy fit, this country gave them the biggest mid term win in our lives and full control of congress in 2010.
This country has and WILL continue to indulge "conservatism."
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Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)A month ago, before Trump went full implosion, he was tied or ahead of Hillary and the Senate was safe for Rs in all projections.
The only reason this election is not over right now is because of Trump.
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Fast Walker 52
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Indykatie
(3,697 posts)HRC has consistently talked about and released her policies even if the media has not done a good job covering that aspect of the campaign. Trump is his own worst enemy in the campaign. HRC has been fairly low key with political attacks on him as he implodes. What personal attacks has she "exclusively resorted to" in your opinion?
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Clinton would have been competitive against any of them. But you go ahead and persist in your Trumpian pesssimistic nihilism, it seems to suit you.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)In saying how horrible trump is I am somehow for trump?
Nitram
(22,822 posts)I am referring to your Trumpian view of the electorate.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)TonyPDX
(962 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)IMHO the GOP is just as evil as Mussolini's party. The ONLY purpose of the GOP is profiteering. War profiteering, Stealing tax revenues. Selling off public assets like schools, roads, prisons, parks, gov services to the highest bidder, shipping factories and jobs to 3rd world countries to minimize labor costs. Gutting safety and environmental regulations that limit profits. GOP is just plain ol' evil. Corrupt without a shred of morality. That a GOP politician would continue to support Trump is IMHO absolute proof of their complete depravity. In what way is today's GOP any different than the capitalists who promoted and supported Hitler? They are just itching to drop some atomic weapons in the middle east. Am I being too harsh?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)peabody
(445 posts)Just add their racism and hatred of women
annabanana
(52,791 posts)This is the rich crowd who never bought the South's loss in the Civil War. They've been working at destroying the Union from the inside ever since.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)But they never, and I mean NEVER, listen.
You cannot win by hoping your opponent fails. It's a loser's game, plain and simple.
You can only win by upping your own game.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)when is defined by what it is against never what it is for!
Stubborn
(116 posts)And, that hasn't been the case recently.
It's nice to make fun of them because of Trump, but we really need to start taking back governorships and state legislatures.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)While Republicans have failed at the presidential level in 2008 and 2012, and the numbers look to be against them in 2016 so far, the GOP has crushed Democrats in off year elections (2010 and 2014), and at the gubernatorial races and state legislature levels. Just imagine if Democrats controlled redistricting in some of those gerrymandered states and had them favor Democrats instead of Republicans?
(better yet, a national nonpartisan commission to control redistricting nationwide would be the best for the long-term.)
glennward
(989 posts)Karma doesn't like ugly.
leimen
(13 posts)Amen stubborn. We need the 50 state strategy back. Where are you Howard Dean. And we must get out the vote. We cannot be complacent.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)was show how deeply racial hatred runs in their Party. It wasn't JUST politics as usual the last 7+ years. And by the example of the New Nazi Party of America open racism among whites has become acceptable in ALL AREAS of this nation, again. Shades of George Wallace on steroids. I grew up with this ignorant, stupid racist redneck mentality, now at 68 deja fucking vu!!!!! How dare the dying majority of this nation allow this nazi Party to be what they are today. All the signs of weakness shown by certain Party leaders the last 7+ years have come home to roost.
berksdem
(595 posts)it will be interesting to see what happens after HRc takes office... I expect it will be more of the same and they will rail against HRC. The nutty side of the right has taken over the party and I do not see it changing even if this were a landslide victory.
Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)There will be scandal after sandal, congressional investigation after congressional investigation. Judicial Watch (a RW legal group) will file brief after brief to the courts to have HRC release documents on every decision she makes, every phone call she makes. They are a rabid pack of snarling dogs.
Every single person related to, or associated with the Clinton's will be under scrutiny.
She won't have a moments peace if she is elected President. Lord knows why she wanted this job.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)their kind must be expunged from our body politic.
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they went low, he went high ... and President Obama will likely go down as one of the best ever. It is mind boggling to even think about how much he has accomplished, especially with the repukes hanging onto his leg.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)MLK's Where Do We Go From Here?" speech of August 1967
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)and had, so he thought, good working relationships there. So it must have come as a surprise to learn how they had secretly met to plan his demise before he could every take office. It's poetic justice, that Obama gets the last laugh. I believe History will be very kind to Obama, and hopefully the GOP will be left to wander in the desert aimlessly, through the desert for the next 40 years.
If I were Obama, I'd do everything I legally could to screw the bastards (starting with McConnell) on my way out the door. I'd give Hillary a complete Presidential pardon for anything and everything they might come up with between now and the end of the year, related to Email-gate, Benghazi, Syria, Egypt, Monica, and all the other bimbo-gates, etc. Then I'd laugh all the way into retirement, and hopefully that NBA Commissioner's job he's been drooling over for years.
spanzini
(17 posts)Let's be truthful, Republicans have run amok during Obama's turn in office. Stop all the chearleading.
"Democrats during Obamas presidency lost 11 governorships, 13 U.S. Senate seats, 69 House seats, and 913 state legislative seats and 30 state legislative chambers".
Native
(5,942 posts)And...