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trof

(54,256 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:01 AM Aug 2016

The Republicans tried to sink Obama. Instead, the party imploded.

Richard Wolffe - The Guardian

If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician – not the advancement of your own policies – it fans the flames of extremism

The GOP leadership chose to make Obama unacceptable, unpalatable and un-American. On the night of his first inauguration, House Republican leaders met at a Washington steakhouse to plot their path back to power. They would not reform their policies or consider the root cause of their defeat. Instead, they would oppose Obama on everything, well before he tried to pass a giant stimulus bill or healthcare reform.

They needed to deny him a reputation for bipartisanship and mainstream politics, and they succeeded. He wasn’t reasonable; he was an ideologue. His vision of healthcare reform wasn’t a free-market system based on Republican plans; it was a socialist takeover that would destroy the American way of life. He was inviting terrorist attacks on the homeland, not hunting down Osama bin Laden. He was acting in unconstitutional ways because he wasn’t really American at all.

The party of Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann and Roger Ailes had turned him into their own kind of freak.

Before he finished his second year in office, Obama was such an object of Republican loathing that the Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell could say – with impunity – that “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

If your political priorities are the total defeat of a single politician – not the advancement of your own policies through debate or legislation – then you are already in pretty desperate shape. You render it impossible to compromise with your opponents, and you fan the flames of extremism that will burn anyone in the center.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/09/gop-tried-sink-obama-imploded-extremism

Wolffe nails it.

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The Republicans tried to sink Obama. Instead, the party imploded. (Original Post) trof Aug 2016 OP
Exactly. Voters want real progress, not obstructionism. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #1
aw bullshit Cosmocat Aug 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #11
Yeah, except not Cosmocat Aug 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #26
welcome to DU! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #13
Clearly You Have Not Been Paying Attention Or Maybe You Have and Just Want to Criticize Indykatie Aug 2016 #31
I call bullshit right back at you, Cosmocat. Nitram Aug 2016 #32
That makes no sense Cosmocat Aug 2016 #38
I didn't say you are for Trump. Nitram Aug 2016 #39
"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind" yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2016 #2
Funny how that happened, huh? TonyPDX Aug 2016 #3
Key point: it was AFTER the ELECTION. We much crush Trump politics WITH THIS ELECTION. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #4
GOP is a neo-facsist criminal enterprise vlyons Aug 2016 #5
Good summation ^ world wide wally Aug 2016 #6
I second that! peabody Aug 2016 #7
Good post malaise Aug 2016 #9
This is certainly the way they have operated for decades. annabanana Aug 2016 #33
I tried to tell them this in 2009. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #10
KnR Hekate Aug 2016 #12
A Political Party can not endure Cryptoad Aug 2016 #14
He obviously makes good points, but the GOP needs to be crushed at the voting booth. Stubborn Aug 2016 #16
Agreed on this NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #20
And they are going to spend their last breaths on still trying to destroy him. glennward Aug 2016 #17
ThE republicans tried to sink Obama leimen Aug 2016 #18
all the nazis have done heaven05 Aug 2016 #19
they are the definition of obstructionism... berksdem Aug 2016 #21
My fear as well. The RWer's have done this before. All though out Bill Clinton's admin. Fla Dem Aug 2016 #41
this is why it's no exaggeration to call modern Republicans evil traitors Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #28
Yep lillypaddle Aug 2016 #25
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2016 #27
"The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, but it Bends toward Justice" charlyvi Aug 2016 #29
The stinking hate they nurtured in their bosom ate them alive from the inside out. Good riddance. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #30
Exactly, and to think Obama had worked with many of those Repugs while in the Senate politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #34
Democrats have taken it on the shins..... spanzini Aug 2016 #35
This paragraph especially nails it. Native Aug 2016 #36
Blowback. tanyev Aug 2016 #37
Great Article..Thank You for posting it...nt Stuart G Aug 2016 #40

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
1. Exactly. Voters want real progress, not obstructionism.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:07 AM
Aug 2016

The GOP gerrymandered house reps used their seats to try to avenge their own ego losses. That's NOT why they were put in office.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
8. aw bullshit
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:00 PM
Aug 2016

and I don't mean to make this personal to you, but "voters want real progress" just does not square with reality.

It only because Trump is THIS bad that things are where they are now.

Put Rubio, Bush, even Cruz in this election and it is at best a toss up now, the senate would be safely theirs, ect.

In my entire adult life - three decades now republican's have been complete jackasses, and increasingly worse in tone and demeanor.

And, the only two times they were held accountable where when Bush completely fucked the country up in 08 and 10, and then for no reason whatsoever, other than them throwing a fucking hissy fit, this country gave them the biggest mid term win in our lives and full control of congress in 2010.

This country has and WILL continue to indulge "conservatism."

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Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
15. Yeah, except not
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

A month ago, before Trump went full implosion, he was tied or ahead of Hillary and the Senate was safe for Rs in all projections.

The only reason this election is not over right now is because of Trump.

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Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
31. Clearly You Have Not Been Paying Attention Or Maybe You Have and Just Want to Criticize
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:01 PM
Aug 2016

HRC has consistently talked about and released her policies even if the media has not done a good job covering that aspect of the campaign. Trump is his own worst enemy in the campaign. HRC has been fairly low key with political attacks on him as he implodes. What personal attacks has she "exclusively resorted to" in your opinion?

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
32. I call bullshit right back at you, Cosmocat.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:11 PM
Aug 2016

Clinton would have been competitive against any of them. But you go ahead and persist in your Trumpian pesssimistic nihilism, it seems to suit you.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. GOP is a neo-facsist criminal enterprise
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:47 AM
Aug 2016

IMHO the GOP is just as evil as Mussolini's party. The ONLY purpose of the GOP is profiteering. War profiteering, Stealing tax revenues. Selling off public assets like schools, roads, prisons, parks, gov services to the highest bidder, shipping factories and jobs to 3rd world countries to minimize labor costs. Gutting safety and environmental regulations that limit profits. GOP is just plain ol' evil. Corrupt without a shred of morality. That a GOP politician would continue to support Trump is IMHO absolute proof of their complete depravity. In what way is today's GOP any different than the capitalists who promoted and supported Hitler? They are just itching to drop some atomic weapons in the middle east. Am I being too harsh?

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
33. This is certainly the way they have operated for decades.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:14 PM
Aug 2016

This is the rich crowd who never bought the South's loss in the Civil War. They've been working at destroying the Union from the inside ever since.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
10. I tried to tell them this in 2009.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Aug 2016

But they never, and I mean NEVER, listen.

You cannot win by hoping your opponent fails. It's a loser's game, plain and simple.

You can only win by upping your own game.

 

Stubborn

(116 posts)
16. He obviously makes good points, but the GOP needs to be crushed at the voting booth.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

And, that hasn't been the case recently.

It's nice to make fun of them because of Trump, but we really need to start taking back governorships and state legislatures.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. Agreed on this
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
Aug 2016

While Republicans have failed at the presidential level in 2008 and 2012, and the numbers look to be against them in 2016 so far, the GOP has crushed Democrats in off year elections (2010 and 2014), and at the gubernatorial races and state legislature levels. Just imagine if Democrats controlled redistricting in some of those gerrymandered states and had them favor Democrats instead of Republicans?

(better yet, a national nonpartisan commission to control redistricting nationwide would be the best for the long-term.)

 

glennward

(989 posts)
17. And they are going to spend their last breaths on still trying to destroy him.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:54 PM
Aug 2016

Karma doesn't like ugly.

leimen

(13 posts)
18. ThE republicans tried to sink Obama
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:58 PM
Aug 2016

Amen stubborn. We need the 50 state strategy back. Where are you Howard Dean. And we must get out the vote. We cannot be complacent.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
19. all the nazis have done
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

was show how deeply racial hatred runs in their Party. It wasn't JUST politics as usual the last 7+ years. And by the example of the New Nazi Party of America open racism among whites has become acceptable in ALL AREAS of this nation, again. Shades of George Wallace on steroids. I grew up with this ignorant, stupid racist redneck mentality, now at 68 deja fucking vu!!!!! How dare the dying majority of this nation allow this nazi Party to be what they are today. All the signs of weakness shown by certain Party leaders the last 7+ years have come home to roost.

berksdem

(595 posts)
21. they are the definition of obstructionism...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
Aug 2016

it will be interesting to see what happens after HRc takes office... I expect it will be more of the same and they will rail against HRC. The nutty side of the right has taken over the party and I do not see it changing even if this were a landslide victory.

Fla Dem

(23,691 posts)
41. My fear as well. The RWer's have done this before. All though out Bill Clinton's admin.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:29 AM
Aug 2016

There will be scandal after sandal, congressional investigation after congressional investigation. Judicial Watch (a RW legal group) will file brief after brief to the courts to have HRC release documents on every decision she makes, every phone call she makes. They are a rabid pack of snarling dogs.

Every single person related to, or associated with the Clinton's will be under scrutiny.

She won't have a moments peace if she is elected President. Lord knows why she wanted this job.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
23. this is why it's no exaggeration to call modern Republicans evil traitors
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:19 PM
Aug 2016

their kind must be expunged from our body politic.

Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #23)

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
25. Yep
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

they went low, he went high ... and President Obama will likely go down as one of the best ever. It is mind boggling to even think about how much he has accomplished, especially with the repukes hanging onto his leg.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
29. "The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, but it Bends toward Justice"
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

MLK's Where Do We Go From Here?" speech of August 1967

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
34. Exactly, and to think Obama had worked with many of those Repugs while in the Senate
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:51 PM
Aug 2016

and had, so he thought, good working relationships there. So it must have come as a surprise to learn how they had secretly met to plan his demise before he could every take office. It's poetic justice, that Obama gets the last laugh. I believe History will be very kind to Obama, and hopefully the GOP will be left to wander in the desert aimlessly, through the desert for the next 40 years.

If I were Obama, I'd do everything I legally could to screw the bastards (starting with McConnell) on my way out the door. I'd give Hillary a complete Presidential pardon for anything and everything they might come up with between now and the end of the year, related to Email-gate, Benghazi, Syria, Egypt, Monica, and all the other bimbo-gates, etc. Then I'd laugh all the way into retirement, and hopefully that NBA Commissioner's job he's been drooling over for years.

 

spanzini

(17 posts)
35. Democrats have taken it on the shins.....
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 08:51 AM
Aug 2016

Let's be truthful, Republicans have run amok during Obama's turn in office. Stop all the chearleading.

"Democrats during Obama’s presidency lost 11 governorships, 13 U.S. Senate seats, 69 House seats, and 913 state legislative seats and 30 state legislative chambers".

Native

(5,942 posts)
36. This paragraph especially nails it.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:01 AM
Aug 2016

And...

You also look weak and foolish when you lose, surrendering the stage to someone who can vilify his opponents better than you. So don’t look dazed and confused at Donald Trump when he runs your playbook more convincingly than your own team. It’s too late to fret about endorsing his kooky positions – like deporting millions of undocumented immigrants, treating all Muslims as enemies and blowing up the deficit – when they are only logical extensions of your own.
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