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Both men incited their followers to extreme violence, including assassination. Both criminals were racists, planning to start social conflict, which could lead to worldwide wars. Both sociopaths also used subtle but easy to understand wording, meant to reduce evidence in court, to order extremely violent acts; but only one of these deranged criminals is in prison.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Both men have a stolen musical connection. Maybe Michael Jackson will allow Trump to use Helter Skelter as a theme-song. It was written by Paul McCartney and John Lennon, about a roller coaster ride. Manson thought it was a prediction of a race-war.
THE LONG WALK TO JUSTICE featured in the video seems to apply.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Not a roller coaster.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/helter-skelter.html
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Helter Skelter
Unfortunately, the song Helter Skelter, just like Piggies, has been linked to Charles Manson in the killings of Sharon Tate and others in 1969, but has nothing at all to do with anything like that. On July 18, 1968, Paul and the other three Beatles were in the studio at Abbey Road, and Paul wanted to write a real rockin' song that would shock everyone. He got the idea from a newspaper review of a new song by "The Who," where their song received great reviews. Wanting to compete, Paul wrote this one. The name Helter Skelter is a roller coaster in England, described there as a spiral slide. If one knows this information, the song makes perfect sense - how Manson misinterpreted the lyrics again is a mystery, except for the fact that he was indeed quite deranged. In Manson's mind, the phrase, "coming down fast," meant to him that the American radical conflict was soon to arrive. The murderers, as they did with the words "pig" and "piggy," wrote "Helter Skelter" on the walls with the victim's blood. It also didn't help the song much when the Los Angeles District Attorney, Vincent Bugliosi, who prosecuted the case, named his best-selling book Helter Skelter.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Why is Trump similar to Frankenstein's monster in the book by Shelly?
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Because women lacked equality, Mary Shelly used a pen-name in the first edition of the Prometheus- style story about a sad monster, who faced loneliness and discrimination because of his appearance. Trump should be facing solitary confinement for his crimes against others, because he persecutes people for their attire, religious beliefs and skin color!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)amalgam of the newly created industrial/scientific age, with its promise of life emergent over death (death being the metaphor for the starving class, with no hope of emerging into that of Shelley and her ilk, the uberclass )
time for a drink
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Their underlying racism - as conveyed in Fox News and other Right-wing media - finally surfaces as Trump, a monster that will eventually incite a terrorist attack, in the USA, to sway voters to his anti-Islamic views.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)It is not my intention to condemn ANYONE for their incomplete, although accurate, posts. Some male friends of Shelly were upper-class buffoons. Others were instrumental in the feminist movement. ALL female friends of Mary Shelly were second class citizens.
Social influences on Mary Shelley (1797-1851) must be taken into consideration, as she tries to express roots of the feminist movement in Frankenstein. Feminist critics viewed the monster of Frankenstein as an image that represents the suppression of women. They also claimed the novel likely expresses Shelley's own feelings and experience towards self-identity and her anxiety as a female writer (Bomarito et al, 2005).
The feminist laced writings of Mary Shelly predates the First Wave Feminist Movement, during the early twentieth century.
The feminist movement (also known as the women's liberation movement, the women's movement, or simply Feminazi, refers to a series of political campaigns for reforms on issues such as reproductive rights, domestic violence, maternity leave, equal pay, women's suffrage, sexual harassment, and sexual violence, all of which fall under the label of feminism and the feminist movement. The movement's priorities vary among nations and communities, and range from opposition to female genital mutilation in one country, to opposition to the glass ceiling in another.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Who would want this unique and informative Opening Post hidden from other readers?
Jeffersons Ghost
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Do other readers - especially those who write the truth about Trump - experience similar problems?