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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:41 PM Aug 2016

Where does this groundswell of LiBroTarianism come from?

Back in the 1990s when I went to college, we used to make fun of the Laissez-Fail bros. You know, naturally, because most of us saw our fathers getting laid off, their jobs shipped to union-busting right-to-work or cheaper overseas climes . . . and our generation come out to the Bush I job market, which had a dearth of even mediocre-paying positions to establish an economic start.

In turn, we SAW, WITH OUR OWN EYES and all across our respective regions, the rotted result of "Reaganomics" and the brick-wall stall it put on the middle/working/poor's lives, and their children's. Yet, there these bros still were, even during Clinton, yapping that Laissez-Fail either didn't go far enough or wasn't given long enough of a chance to work. And then we had to suffer through eight years of Reagan on Steroids, which inevitably led to TWO recessions, the second of which turned out to be America's worst financial catastrophe in 75 years. It was, DURRRRRRRRRRR, caused by Conservanomics and the faith-based hilarity of giving wealthy people even MORE money and expecting them to not fist you in return.

They were all about books like "The Federal Mafia" by tax protester Irwin Schiff (and, subsequently, made a cult figure out of his fucknut moron son). Their Bible was anything written by Ayn Rand. Their "Ulysses" was anything by Robert Heinlen. Milton Friedman and Penn Jillette became sex symbols.

So in 2016, a repackaged Laissez-Failure named Gary Johnson comes along and promises to abolish the IRS and institute a consumption tax, which the LiBroTarians of course are lapping up like Lik-M-Aid laced with coke. Oh, and he plans on torching the social safety net to a blackened crisp, including Medicare. "Why vote the Left Nut and The Right Nut, When You Can have The Whole Johnson, Hur Hur Hur!!??" Yeah, why have two testicles when the Johnson can shaft you where it hurts?

. . . . . my mother taught us that helping others is not only it's own reward, but makes a better future. When, exactly, did that get tossed out the window in favor of "Fuck You, Pay Me"?? Is it just a case of not being raised right? No one's born a sociopathic selfish cock. Somewhere along the way, they had to learn it. It's kind of a bizarre notion . . . "learning" a political and economic philosophy that's racked with fallacy and contradiction.

Why, after years and years and years of visually evident failure do we still believe being selfish and the notion of a benevolent upper class is going to work? When is America going to finally wake the hell up and realize that not everything nailed down has to be about making a buck?

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tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Libertarianism - All for one, and that one is me.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

The libertarians I know botch and complain about everything, but think they should not have to pay for decent roads or running water. They are the most selfish people I know.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. That's really what this whole campaign's appeal to young people is about, really.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:58 PM
Aug 2016

But what happens when most states are now legalizing medicinal marijuana, and, to follow, decriminalizing recreational marijuana?

With no youth appeal, they're left with nothing but middle/working/poor-screwing economics taken even further than Romney. In other words, they're pretty much the Republican Plus party.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
3. Libertarianism is just another form of
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

Feudalism. Also, it means "As long as I have mine, fuck everyone else."

dawg

(10,624 posts)
4. Being a Republican has become "uncool" so ...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

the more selfishly-inclined of the younger generations gravitate towards the Libertarians instead.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
7. "Maybe we shouldn't be saving those kids."
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:02 PM
Aug 2016
That kind of thinking seriously scares me and, in turn, prompted this post.

I think it's because most of these younger Libertarian Party members never really financially experienced a Recession.

I don't want to think that our children are being raised to send the infirm on an ice floe or think giving the wealthy a tax-free life will make them be nice to us.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
8. That is pretty terrifying.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:10 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe some of these young people will become more liberal as they grow up and begin to see how friends and family sometimes have to struggle due to the lack of an adequate safety net.

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