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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:44 PM Aug 2016

Your costly cable box is likely getting the ax. Here's what the FCC is considering instead.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/643191/costly-cable-box-likely-getting-ax-heres-what-fcc-considering-instead

The Federal Communications Commission is looking at two proposals to get rid of that cable set-top box you rent from your cable provider, at an average cost of $231 a year. That's good news if you are a cable subscriber, though it's a $20 billion loss in rental fees for the cable companies.

The two proposals the FCC is considering to replace the cable box are also very different, explains Seth Fiegerman at CNNMoney. In January, FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler proposed giving subscribers the option to scrap the set-top box, which you can only get from the cable company, for a cheaper third-party device that would also allow streaming Netflix, Hulu, or other online content services.

Cable companies hated this "Unlock the Box" proposal, which they blamed (probably unfairly) on Google, the tech giant that's edging into the cable/broadband market and would presumably make one of those third-party devices, along with Apple, Amazon, and other tech companies. Comcast, AT&T, Dish, Time Warner Cable, and other cable interests formed a new lobbying group, the Future of TV Coalition, and went full-bore on Congress, aided by Hollywood studios, CNNMoney says. After the U.S. Copyright Office sided with the cable giants, the "Unlock the Box" proposal seems to be losing to "Ditch the Box," an alternative favored by Big Cable that would replace set-top boxes with proprietary apps.

Big Tech isn't a fan of "Ditch the Box," and Wheeler dismissed the "one page" plan as an industry "press release." You can learn more about how each proposal would work in the CNNMoney video below, but Wheeler is said to be angling to have a final proposal in place by the end of the year, so your set-top cable box's days are probably numbered. And who knows? That might even save you $200 a year.


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Your costly cable box is likely getting the ax. Here's what the FCC is considering instead. (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2016 OP
sounds good to me. chillfactor Aug 2016 #1
Nice in theory, Sunriser13 Aug 2016 #2
I'd love to get rid of my cable box, with it's craptasic interface.. Thor_MN Aug 2016 #3
Roku and Wi-Fi no cable box for a year and a half now. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #10
Going on 15 years myself bhikkhu Aug 2016 #11
Netflix, Amazon and HBO-Go much cheaper than the 150 dollar cable package. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #14
I'm on a save energy kick yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #4
Kill-a-watt meter is our friend madokie Aug 2016 #9
Oh wow. Thanks. That is very informative and useful. yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #13
We don't have the cable box because of the fees. liberal N proud Aug 2016 #5
Get a TIVO (it uses a cable card that might be free (I pay 2.00 a month for my cable card)) Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #6
We have looked at that liberal N proud Aug 2016 #8
I like to watch my shows when they are broadcast, not a week later in a binge or whatever. WinkyDink Aug 2016 #7
That's what they did to the phone companies decades ago Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #12
For most, you can buy a wireless DSL/Cable modem outright for $100-$150 to avoid lease fees. CRF450 Aug 2016 #15
Oh I know that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2016 #16
saw some info on the dish dvr....pretty cool dembotoz Aug 2016 #17
They don't bother to ask any of us, do they? Avalux Aug 2016 #18

Sunriser13

(612 posts)
2. Nice in theory,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:57 PM
Aug 2016

but this cash cow won't just be given up without a fight. The ones who stand to lose will simply rearrange their fees in another way, so that the cost of access either will not change by much or the basic costs may just go up.

There doesn't ever seem to be a win for the little people held over the corporate barrel.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. I'd love to get rid of my cable box, with it's craptasic interface..
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:24 PM
Aug 2016

I've seen better interfaces written by college interns. Cable companies write truly awful code.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
11. Going on 15 years myself
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:19 PM
Aug 2016

and the only time I can honestly say I've missed cable was during the olympics, which I've generally not been able to watch. Other than that, no issues, and I can't imagine why anyone keeps writing that big monthly check.

That last couple years I've gotten netflix and amazon prime service, which is pretty cheap, and far more content than I'd ever have time to watch. I figure the amount I've saved over the years opting out of cable has constituted a substantial boost to my retirement savings, which would have been much more difficult to do while paying for cable.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. I'm on a save energy kick
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:29 PM
Aug 2016

I am trying to get lower bills then my neighbor. I only beat him once....lol. 3 weeks without AC cuz it broke and needed fixed. Anyway, doing research I found that cable box uses more energy then the TV. Grrrrr. I was shocked by that. Hopefully this new box is more energy efficient.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Kill-a-watt meter is our friend
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:59 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.p3international.com/products/P4400.html

And one option on them is the HZ monitor. If you have an emergency generator you can check it to make sure it is running at the right speed, (HZ,) and if it isn't you can adjust the governor so it is.

I checked our satellite box, tv and sound system a few years ago and when they're turned off the electrical draw was negligent to the tune of pennies a month so I quit turning that stuff off with a power strip.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
5. We don't have the cable box because of the fees.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:31 PM
Aug 2016

But would love something that ha a DVR without the fees to the cable company.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
12. That's what they did to the phone companies decades ago
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:25 PM
Aug 2016

Of course some phone and cable companies say you have to lease their modem/router.

CRF450

(2,244 posts)
15. For most, you can buy a wireless DSL/Cable modem outright for $100-$150 to avoid lease fees.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:12 PM
Aug 2016

In a years' time or so, the cost will break even, and you'll maybe get a handful of years use out of it. My last cable modem was probably 7 years old. I recently decided to upgrade my internet from the standard 15, to 100Mbps, so a new modem was definitely needed, Now I can stream 4k video content with no buffering

I wish they would do the same for the cable/satellite boxes, but the problem with that is cable/sat providers make their own programming software and data encryption, so they have a monopoly on providing very specific equipment that you can't really get off the shelf anywhere.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
16. Oh I know that
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:22 PM
Aug 2016

I used to work for a part of Verizon that was spun off to Frontier. They wanted us to pass the leased/new modem BS off the customers. I told them keep their present modem.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
17. saw some info on the dish dvr....pretty cool
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

can not get it because of the condo assoc.

would love to get rid of time warner

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
18. They don't bother to ask any of us, do they?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:44 PM
Aug 2016

It's a fight between Big Cable and Tech; they're the ones with influence, not us.

They know we're going to do whatever they come up with because we're addicted to TV.

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