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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:12 PM Aug 2016

We Should All Start Raising the Bar for Trump on Debates

Debates are an expectations game. You will find no one who hates Donald Trump more than I do.

But debates are like the New Hampshire Primary, it matters little who actually wins, but if you exceeded expectations. I'm afraid if we set the expectation bar too low, Trump could appear the winner of the debates, even if he looks like a bumbling fool, if the expectations are set at rock bottom.

(1). There should be no more talk about him showing up. if we continue to act like he's not going to debate at all, he could appear to win the debate by just showing up. We can't allow the bar to be set that low. Any asshole can just show up.

(2). Let's stop with the fact that he's not preparing. If we establish that Trump's not prepared and then he knows where Canada is in relation to the United States, he looks smarter than he is. Instead, we should throw his words in his own face and raise expectations. "Donald Trump, by the results of all the instant polls, won every Republican Party Primary debate. He defeated some of the Republicans best politicians, like Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz. I expect that Hillary will have her hands full."

(3). We must lower the bar for Hillary. "She's in a difficult position. It's really hard to prepare for a debate opponent who has such an unorthodox style. Hillary will be lucky to get a draw under such unpredictable circumstances."

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We Should All Start Raising the Bar for Trump on Debates (Original Post) louis c Aug 2016 OP
He's not preparing because he doesn't need to. He's just that good! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #1
Do you agree with my premise? louis c Aug 2016 #2
You make a valid observation, but after seeing Hillary's performance/s... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #3
she'll win handily in the eyes of any reasonable viewer. problem is, the media, the pundits,... unblock Aug 2016 #6
I do, marginally... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #4
this all depends... dawnie51 Aug 2016 #5
the media coverage will be dominated by trump's zingers and gaffes. unblock Aug 2016 #7

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. You make a valid observation, but after seeing Hillary's performance/s...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:20 PM
Aug 2016

... it won't matter how low the bar is set or what the expectations are. Nothing can help him.

Hillary will clean his clock. She'll mop the floor with him, wring him out, and mop the floor again, and hang him up wet and sour.

She's proven what she can do, he's shown us what an idiot he is... nothing will change.

I'm really not all that concerned.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
6. she'll win handily in the eyes of any reasonable viewer. problem is, the media, the pundits,...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:18 PM
Aug 2016

they'll all decide that he "won" the debates if his chance of winning the election go from 23% before to 25% after.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
4. I do, marginally...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:22 PM
Aug 2016

we do seem to be pre-loading excuses for Trump where in if he doesn't babble like a toddler he has somehow "won."

But I'm not really worried. Hill has been dealing with idiots like him for years, decades maybe.

She should focus on her game, not worry about him and what he can do. The worst thing Hillary can do is lose her temper or get distracted by the bullshit he flings. After 11 hours in the well at the House, somehow I think she can deal with 1-2 hours on a stage with the Trumpster.

Trying not to have any "expectations" at all, really. I suspect that Trump will try to de-rail the process, and that Hillary is gonna get a few zingers in at his expense while pontificating on her platform and policy proposals. To date, I don't think Trump has much of that to use.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
5. this all depends...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:36 PM
Aug 2016

on the moderators. Whomever they may be. Are they going to allow Drumpf to rant and rave and evade the questions? Or will they bring him back again and again, cut him off from the word salad and the malicious spew, and MAKE him act like a sentient human being long enough to formulate an answer that actually addresses the question asked. I wish whoever these moderators are good luck. They'll need it.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
7. the media coverage will be dominated by trump's zingers and gaffes.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:26 PM
Aug 2016

hillary's presidential calm and competence will be drowned out by trump's drama.


hopefully, the coverage will continue to reflect it as disconcerting....

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