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Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:11 PM Aug 2016

Is saying something against Anthony Weiner a violation of TOS?

I was called for jury duty on a post that is trashing Weiner because it wasn't supporting a democratic public figure. I voted to leave it because he isn't a democratic figure any longer. Was this the right call?

And am I violating TOS by asking this question?

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Is saying something against Anthony Weiner a violation of TOS? (Original Post) Happyhippychick Aug 2016 OP
Well I agree with you OriginalGeek Aug 2016 #1
Blindly supporting the party is no good Calculating Aug 2016 #2
Good Question, I have'nt posted in a few months after being blocked, banned and hid orpupilofnature57 Aug 2016 #3
jury decisions are still judgment calls. in any event, unblock Aug 2016 #4
What if the person then used a casuistry like " We came, We saw, We killed " if a orpupilofnature57 Aug 2016 #9
Very cute. cwydro Aug 2016 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #25
Too funny. cwydro Aug 2016 #34
I think I might understand the why Control-Z Aug 2016 #17
He's not a democratic public figure anymore. KMOD Aug 2016 #5
exactly. Also, reporting and commenting on a valid news story, even if it is negative against a still_one Aug 2016 #7
Fuck Anthony Weiner malaise Aug 2016 #6
He might take a shining to you if you texted that to him Generic Brad Aug 2016 #43
Hehehehehhe malaise Aug 2016 #45
We may of course, criticize action, policy or legislation by any dem in a leadership position. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #8
Maybe you appeared too gleeful. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #10
How so? I didn't make any commentary, as no one can in jury duty. Happyhippychick Aug 2016 #31
We don't need to trash Weiner vlyons Aug 2016 #11
Someone is trying to game the system ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #12
You are correct Motley13 Aug 2016 #13
Your oppression seems fictional, but bemusing. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #26
exactly what I mean Motley13 Aug 2016 #30
+1 jack_krass Aug 2016 #40
No longer a congressman and Abedin just severed Weiner Major Nikon Aug 2016 #14
No pun intended, I'm sure. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #22
Separated seemed worse Major Nikon Aug 2016 #23
I'm going with lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #24
Pop goes the Weiner Major Nikon Aug 2016 #42
Is that you, Lorena Bobbit? madinmaryland Aug 2016 #35
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Odin2005 Aug 2016 #44
If it IS against TOS -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2016 #15
Weiner, Weiner, Weiner. Jehovah. Jehovah, Jehovah. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #18
lol MFM008 Aug 2016 #19
sorry it usually has an R after it.... MFM008 Aug 2016 #20
I agree with you BigDemVoter Aug 2016 #21
Yes. It is ok to critisize Weiner and others if they do something stupid. Sexting madinmaryland Aug 2016 #27
If anything, he disgraces the Democratic party so that alone should be enough to persuade a poster CTyankee Aug 2016 #33
No you are not in violation of TOS! MoonRiver Aug 2016 #28
He's still one of the good guys we shouldn't judge him. ileus Aug 2016 #29
Weiner isn't running for office. Kaleva Aug 2016 #32
There's a line between criticizing bad behavior and trashing a person Warpy Aug 2016 #36
How did the jury rule -- which could only be seen by seeing if the post is still there karynnj Aug 2016 #37
I'd leave it too tammywammy Aug 2016 #38
It's a good question. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #39
Whoever alerted that is an asshole and can fuck off Spider Jerusalem Aug 2016 #41

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
1. Well I agree with you
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:14 PM
Aug 2016

so if you're in trouble so am I. People that hurt the party shouldn't get protection because of the party.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
2. Blindly supporting the party is no good
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

It's just as bad as Republicans who blindly support Trumpster because he's the R candidate.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. Good Question, I have'nt posted in a few months after being blocked, banned and hid
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:17 PM
Aug 2016

more in the six months before, than in the 13 yrs I've been on DU .

unblock

(52,253 posts)
4. jury decisions are still judgment calls. in any event,
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:18 PM
Aug 2016

if a democratic public figure were to, say, stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody, i think it would be ok to say that was a bad thing.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
9. What if the person then used a casuistry like " We came, We saw, We killed " if a
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

Person characterized that as callus and abhorrent would that be acceptable ?

Response to cwydro (Reply #16)

still_one

(92,219 posts)
7. exactly. Also, reporting and commenting on a valid news story, even if it is negative against a
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

Democrat is not a TOS violation, as long as the story is true

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. We may of course, criticize action, policy or legislation by any dem in a leadership position.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

We may of course, criticize action, policy or legislation by any dem in a leadership position, which is certainly different than engaging in unsourced rumor, or the irrelevant vulgarity of the sub-literate who think any word greater than three syllables can be found only in a thesaurus.

That said, Weiner is no longer in a position of leadership.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
12. Someone is trying to game the system
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

Apparently we can subvert all negative talk but just labeling the person a Democrat.

The fact is, that asshole has done something to hurt the future of our party today once again. Fuck him.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
13. You are correct
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:44 PM
Aug 2016

I find that there is a clique here. Even though we have the same goals, if you don't express yourself to their liking,
you are ridiculed, banned, blocked or whatever.
The new people seem to have the most problems, the people that ridicule are the ones with 40,000 posts.

They don't even look at the full content of your post before criticizing, just the title.

I'm sure I am in trouble with this one. So be it.

Don't know what you said, but he is a creep.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
15. If it IS against TOS --
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:02 PM
Aug 2016

then that says something very sad and dangerous about DU: it means the community has moved one step closer to being a Party propaganda organ where blind Party loyalty reigns supreme -- and that's pure GOP/FAUX territory, a place Democrats should never venture.

Anthony Weiner is an embarrassment who needs to exit public life STAT.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
18. Weiner, Weiner, Weiner. Jehovah. Jehovah, Jehovah.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

<End obscure Monty Python reference.>

There. That should get me banned for life.

Never was a man more skilled at living up to his name.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
19. lol
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

Life of Brian ..................
creepy behavior is something that doesn't have a D or R after it.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
27. Yes. It is ok to critisize Weiner and others if they do something stupid. Sexting
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:43 PM
Aug 2016

is really stupid if you are a national figure. He deserves the shit he is getting from everyone here.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. If anything, he disgraces the Democratic party so that alone should be enough to persuade a poster
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:03 PM
Aug 2016

to safely attack a poster here on DU.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
28. No you are not in violation of TOS!
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:45 PM
Aug 2016

Weiner is a disgusting pervert, no matter what party he identifies with. Some behavior transcends politics.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
36. There's a line between criticizing bad behavior and trashing a person
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:33 PM
Aug 2016

It's not always a clearly visible one.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
37. How did the jury rule -- which could only be seen by seeing if the post is still there
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:36 PM
Aug 2016

I have had similar - less clear cases - where someone is accurately speaking of something that does not reflect well on a Democrat. Unless they are advocating that this disqualifies them for the office they are running for, it would seem best to leave it. It would be nice if instead of a kill/leave decision there was something in the middle that says "watch this thread". If that were the majority response, it could be assigned to one of the monitors, who might immediately set out the boundaries.

It does no one any good to put their head in the sand and refuse to discuss anything that is not perfect. What does help people would be posts putting it in perspective. This helps us have better answers when the same things are raised by people in real life.

There is a huge difference between conceding negatives and advocating against a Democrat or "bashing" the Democrat. It is far better to understand the truth in the best light than to deny things that are real.

Here, it is easy. Weiner is NOT a candidate for anything and NOT in office. His closest relationship is that he is the estranged husband of an aide to our Presidential candidate. I know the rules are stricter this year, but this is 3 degrees of separation. In 2008, there were people criticizing Obama and 2004 had people who were terrible to Kerry.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
38. I'd leave it too
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:02 PM
Aug 2016

What he's done has nothing to do with him being a democrat and everything with being a sleeze ball.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. It's a good question.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 04:19 AM
Aug 2016

And given that I got a hide under the same rule for a truthful comment about a Democrat in the context of her still undecided primary contest against ANOTHER DEMOCRAT, that was fully and clearly within the rules, I have to say I don't think juries always know what they're doing with the new rules.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
41. Whoever alerted that is an asshole and can fuck off
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:21 AM
Aug 2016

Anyone who believes in blind and unquestoning support of anyone with a "D" after their name, regardless of whether their personal life or public actions merit support, is probably in the wrong party and might be happier elsewhere.

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