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Native

(5,942 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:59 PM Aug 2016

Florida Gives Green Light To Solar Amendment

Yeah, to get anything done in this state we have to amend our freaking State Constitution, but we did it!

Florida’s solar Amendment 4 passed with brilliant colors Tuesday. With only 60 percent needed to pass, the measure’s overwhelming support suggests, perhaps, a new direction for solar in the Sunshine State, a relatively untapped source of energy.

“It should not be publishable for you to try and do something more energy efficient,” said Carlos Sanchez outside his polling place at St. Augustine Catholic Church where he voted in favor of Amendment 4. “[The government] should be looking instead at what you’re saving and the environmental factors of it.”

Amendment 4 prevents solar panels from being counted towards a home's or business’ property value. That, in turn, means there will be no subsequent property tax hike because of the addition of solar panels. It also gives tax relief for solar leasing companies that will no longer have to pay tangible personal property tax on solar equipment it provides to individuals.



http://wlrn.org/post/florida-gives-green-light-solar-amendment
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Florida Gives Green Light To Solar Amendment (Original Post) Native Aug 2016 OP
Ha! "Green light" I see what you did there. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #1
You forget - this is a Florida news source - they aren't that clever! Native Aug 2016 #2
On the other hand, maybe the author really is that clever - check her out . . . Native Aug 2016 #17
Yes! mcar Aug 2016 #3
Sorry to hear that! Native Aug 2016 #4
Thanks mcar Aug 2016 #5
Our NY retirees are the same, but we managed to pass our 1/2 cent bill. Your school system is Native Aug 2016 #7
Huge initiative mcar Aug 2016 #9
glad to hear that Lucretius Aug 2016 #21
They need Arizona and Nevada to pass something as well MattP Aug 2016 #6
Boggles the mind, doesn't it? Of all states! Native Aug 2016 #8
Nevada is the anti-California Nevernose Aug 2016 #10
At least you're not in Texas or Florida. Native Aug 2016 #11
I've lived in TX and my whole family is Southern before there was Nevernose Aug 2016 #14
I was born and raised here but spent my young adulthood in the D.C. area - serious culture shock! Native Aug 2016 #15
Florida With The Surprise magicnpoetry Aug 2016 #12
That is a very polite way to phrase it! Native Aug 2016 #13
We chose correctly GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #16
From your lips to God's ears. Native Aug 2016 #18
Trying to do my part GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #19
That's what Hill's campaign has been telling the local offices - FL is ground zero. Native Aug 2016 #20
Not to cast a shadow on this victory, the real fight is coming up in November Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #22
K&R n/t lupinella Aug 2016 #27
We just replaced a dead 23 year old A/C & furnace combo with a solar ready unit Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #23
Nice! I'm looking forward to Musk's solar roofs! Native Aug 2016 #24
Federal Solar Credit – Available through 2021 Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #25
Thanks! Native Aug 2016 #26

Native

(5,942 posts)
17. On the other hand, maybe the author really is that clever - check her out . . .
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:04 PM
Aug 2016
Wilson Sayre was born and bred in Raleigh, N.C., home of the only real barbecue in the country (we're talking East here). She graduated from the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, where she studied Philosophy.

Sayre took a year off school to live in a Zen monastery in Japan and quickly realized that a life of public radio would be a bit more forgiving. Upon returning to the States, she helped launch a news program at UNC’s college-radio station, WXYC. Through error and error, she taught herself how to make radio stories.

She worked with NPR member station WUNC in Chapel Hill, interning for The Story with Dick Gordon. Then she went on to help to run WUNC's Youth Radio Institute, teaching at-risk teenagers how to make radio.

Sayre likes to keep chickens, pickle okra and make sound collages.

Sayre initially came down to WLRN in 2013 for a reporting fellowship. After that, she decided she couldn't leave. She's continued her a mission to get more Miamians to wear overalls and say y'all.


http://wlrn.org/people/wilson-sayre

mcar

(42,307 posts)
5. Thanks
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:14 PM
Aug 2016

Because even though the state and county have drastically cut school taxes, they can make ends meet by cutting their wasteful budget.

Or so say the RWNJ retirees who live here.

Native

(5,942 posts)
7. Our NY retirees are the same, but we managed to pass our 1/2 cent bill. Your school system is
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:21 PM
Aug 2016

in much more need of it than ours ever was. Was there a big initiative to pass it? Our county went all out - I think that's what did it.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
9. Huge initiative
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:25 PM
Aug 2016

I've never seen so many signs to pass. The paper endorsed it, all the school board candidates endorsed it.

This place has gotten so Tea Party there is now only one Democrat in elected office here. Dems don't even run in commission and other races.

On a happy note, the most obnoxious tea party commissioner just lost his re-election bid. To another R, but a decent guy.!

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
10. Nevada is the anti-California
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:32 PM
Aug 2016

Every state wide office and the legislature is Republucan controlled. It's s miracle that last session the Michelle Fiores and Sharon Angles were shut down and compromise was reached.

On edit: autocorrect has stopped functioning, and at least we're not Arizona.

Native

(5,942 posts)
11. At least you're not in Texas or Florida.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:42 PM
Aug 2016

We've definitely got the market cornered on stupid. Red & stupid & corrupt.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
14. I've lived in TX and my whole family is Southern before there was
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:53 PM
Aug 2016

A "North" or "South" Carolina

I just can't ever imagine living in the South again. It is, in fact, getting harder to picture myself staying in the US.

Florida isn't even, really, the South. It's Vegas on a state wide scale, unclaimed by either side since the Civil War. Some Floridians may think of themselves as Southerners, but most of the rest of the South has no idea of what to make of that entire peninsula. Filled with good people and wonderful culture, and every con man, grifter, and get rich quick schemer you could imagine. The main difference being Mormons or Sputhern Baptists secretly pulling the strings.

*This announcement brought to you by the Reedy Creek Improvement District, totally not a front to subvert the rule of law for the entirety of central Florida

Native

(5,942 posts)
15. I was born and raised here but spent my young adulthood in the D.C. area - serious culture shock!
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:00 PM
Aug 2016

but when I moved back here, it was even more of a shock to the system. I also lived in Alabama - now THAT was a frightening experience!

 

magicnpoetry

(45 posts)
12. Florida With The Surprise
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:44 PM
Aug 2016

It's good to see that the obvious benefits of solar are finding inroads even in places where good decisions aren't always normal.

Native

(5,942 posts)
18. From your lips to God's ears.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
Aug 2016

Just got a call from the FL Dem Committee person for our county and a neighboring one - they are convinced that if we just canvas Dems only and make sure they can all get the to the polls, we'll clinch it again. That was certainly encouraging to hear.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Trying to do my part
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:32 PM
Aug 2016

We can honestly tell voters that they, by carrying Florida for Hillary, can insure a presidential win. Because without the Sunshine state Trump has no path. That has been my mantra when talking to folks...the power is in the hands of we Floridians.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
22. Not to cast a shadow on this victory, the real fight is coming up in November
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:59 PM
Aug 2016

There's yet another constitutional amendment referendum on the November ballot that appears to be pro-solar, but is actually a nefarious attempt by the utilities in Florida to remove incentives for residential and commercial customers to invest in solar photovoltaic systems.

Despite the flowery language in the proposed amendment, this has the Koch Bros' and other fossil fuel interests' fingerprints all over it. By inserting a clause that appears to protect non-solar customers from any unfair burden of paying for maintaining the utilities' infrastructure, the crafters of this foul piece constitutionalize the utilities' practice of reducing or eliminating the practice of "net billing."

Customers who generate electricity through roof-top solar panel systems connected to the grid sell surplus electricity to the utility, which in turn sells the same kilowatts to other customers at the same rate. When the sun sets, or when weather reduces the solar panels' capacity, the owners buy electricity at the same rate. At the end of the billing cycle, the utility calculates the net amount owed.

The utilities' claim of hardship on the part of the 99.9% of their customers (non-solar) has been disproven in numerous studies. But that doesn't phase these companies and their supplies of coal, gas or petroleum. Profits take priority over sustainable, abundant energy in their eyes.

Fellow Floridians: please vote "No!" On 1 in November!

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
23. We just replaced a dead 23 year old A/C & furnace combo with a solar ready unit
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:38 PM
Aug 2016

Info here: http://www.lennox.com/products/systems/sunsource



We had not considered the tax increase on our home.

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
25. Federal Solar Credit – Available through 2021
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:46 PM
Aug 2016

http://www.lennox.com/owners/tax-credits/energy-tax-credits

The U.S. government offers a Solar Tax Credit, 25D, for homeowners who purchase and install equipment that uses solar energy to generate electricity.

What it covers
Up to 9% of the total retail cost* of the Solar-Ready Heat Pump or Air Conditioner that’s at the heart of the SunSource® Home Energy System, when solar modules are applied.
30% of the cost with no upper limit on solar module installation**

Qualification details
Existing homes and new construction qualify
Both principal residences and second homes qualify
Rentals do not qualify
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