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(thank you, asshole pence. there is a picture of the child's back at the link below)
Woman who viciously beat her child with a coat hanger cites Indiana's religious freedom law
Most of us here remember vice presidential candidate Mike Pence as Governor Mike Pence the wicked homophobe who signed one of the most discriminatory and backwards laws into Indianas booksthe anti-LGBT religious freedom law. The law was such a perfect example of terrible phobic and awful thinking and fear, that its been very difficult to express how far-reaching and punishing this law can be. Unfortunately, a troubled woman has been able to add to the reasons this law is so perfectly terrible.
An Indianapolis woman who beat her 7-year-old son with a coat hanger is citing Indiana's religious freedom law as a defense against felony child abuse charges, saying her choice of discipline comes straight from her evangelical Christian beliefs. The woman quoted biblical Scripture in court documents. She said that a parent who "spares the rod, spoils the child," and: "Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol."
Guess what? Your evangelical beliefs are criminal and you need counseling and probably jail time. A doctor who checked out the little boy counted 36 bruises, including hook marks on his face, arms, and back. Thaing is a Burmese refugee and is also arguing that there are major cultural differences between the United States and Burma as a defense.
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Elaisa Vahnie might start by saying that the criminal act of abusing your children is culturally accepted in Burma, but it is criminalthis is abuse by any standard. The real question here is what to do. If there is indeed a census amongst the Burmese community that this activity wasnt beyond the pale, then how do you educate this new community before every single family is separated and all of the parents are in jail? Personally, I have my suspicions about this casethe woman by all accounts did not think about beating her child, she just started beating him in a fit of frustration. Complicating matters is the Indiana Supreme Courts decision to make child abuse kind of legal in Indiana, from back in 2008:
The religious freedom claim is half of a one-two defense offered by Thaing's lawyer. The other half leans on a 2008 Indiana Supreme Court decision that affirmed the parental right to discipline children in ways parents consider appropriate, even when others could deem that behavior as excessive.
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/31/1565592/-Woman-who-viciously-beat-her-child-with-a-coat-hanger-cites-Indiana-s-religious-freedom-law?detail=email&link_id=5&can_id=da4156c5f19300febaca3a0dcad12608&source=email-best-cnn-front-page-ever&email_referrer=best-cnn-front-page-ever&email_subject=best-cnn-front-page-ever
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)niyad
(113,573 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,093 posts)1) Women can be sold into slavery.
2) Women should keep their mouth shut.
3) If married, men can do anything they want to their wife.
niyad
(113,573 posts)phylny
(8,389 posts)from Ghana. The little girl was a handful and mom had a hard time disciplining her. One day the mom asked me, "How do you say, 'I'm going to beat you with a stick'?"
Me -> Huh?
"I want to say I'm going to beat her with s stick."
Then we had a conversation about what a "mandated reporter" is and how she shouldn't beat or hit anyone.
Poor kids.
niyad
(113,573 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)niyad
(113,573 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)This is the Christian instruction manual for raising kids.
niyad
(113,573 posts)is he the "blanket training" guy?
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,707 posts)This is horrifying, and inexcusable.
niyad
(113,573 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,707 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)I was at a festival a year or so ago and there was a man dragging a young girl to the parking lot slapping her in the back of the head as he was dragging her. I happened to be standing next to a cop when I saw this and I turned to the cop and asked why he was letting this man do this.
The cop looked me square in the eye and said that in Nevada where I live parents are allowed to hit their children there is nothing he can do about it as much as he dislikes it.
I get people that spank their children I was beaten many times as a child and I think I came out of it mostly intact and it is even possible it drilled home some valuable lessons. That said i have three children and have never hit any of them. They are all well behaved kids that are excelling in school. I personally think physical abuse is the lazy way out. I do understand that it is common in many homes.
That said there should be a line somewhere and I was horrified that this man could drag this young girl through the parking lot slapping her and the cops could not do a thing about it. I had my own children with me at the time and did not want to put them in danger or I would have confronted him myself.
niyad
(113,573 posts)here about a couple who locked one of their children in a closet, with a bucket for a toilet, and many other things I won't even relate here. when they were finally arrested, the charges were misdemeanor bs. one could actually get harsher charges for abusing animals than children. I asked why this was so, and was told that everybody has their own standards of what is discipline for children. to this day, that has not changed here.