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niyad

(113,315 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 10:36 PM Sep 2016

I was on board with Kaepernick until....

I was on board with Kaepernick until....

By Clay Cane

NFL's Kaepernick sits in protest during national anthem


Colin Kaepernick sparked a media firestorm on August 26 when he refused to stand for the national anthem before a preseason game against the Green Bay Packers.
The San Francisco 49ers quarterback explained in an interview, "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." I immediately applauded Kaepernick for using the art of protest to spark a national dialogue. People are dying. We are in the eye of a cultural crisis in America.

. . . .

But here is where Kaepernick lost me: His remarks to the press segued into a rant of the type you hear from the conservative right. He said: "I mean, you have Hillary who's called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump who's openly racist. I mean, we have a presidential candidate [Hillary Clinton] who's deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you'd be in prison."

To lump Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the same category is wrong, offensive and uninformed. Trump isn't even in the same category as former President George W. Bush or former Vice President Dick Cheney. Donald Trump isn't a Republican or even a conservative. He's a rich, famous alleged businessman who has money to burn and a disturbing case of narcissism.

Kaepernick referenced her 1996 comment "super predators." Sadly, he quoted her as falsely as Donald Trump did. She didn't specifically call black teens or black kids super predators. She was referencing gang culture, but many interpreted the term as racially coded language. I agree, and I despised the term. Nonetheless, Clinton apologized for the words she used 20 years ago that didn't receive mainstream press until she was running for President. Trump won't even directly apologize for an insulting or bigoted comment he made a week ago.

. . . .

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/30/opinions/where-kaepernick-lost-me-cane/

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I was on board with Kaepernick until.... (Original Post) niyad Sep 2016 OP
So, it's ok for him to have an opinion...until it's an unfavorable one? cyberswede Sep 2016 #1
prosecutors await his evidence on presidential candidates who have "done things illegally" nt msongs Sep 2016 #2
True, everyone has a right to their opinion Major Nikon Sep 2016 #8
please note, it isn't my piece. he has every right to voice his opinions, including niyad Sep 2016 #22
Whatever.... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #3
So not liking Hillary makes him a Republican? nt revbones Sep 2016 #4
Thankfully he dislikes trump even more. KMOD Sep 2016 #5
repeating rabid rightwing crap makes him an asshole Skittles Sep 2016 #9
Or someone who watches the nightly news Egnever Sep 2016 #10
uh, no Skittles Sep 2016 #14
Nah this is straight from the news Egnever Sep 2016 #15
he sounds like an idiot Skittles Sep 2016 #16
You will get no argument from me there Egnever Sep 2016 #19
as a seahawks fan, i can assure you maxsolomon Sep 2016 #21
it's got nothing to do with racism Skittles Sep 2016 #33
Agree 1000% cornball 24 Sep 2016 #32
That's exactly my thought. cwydro Sep 2016 #17
KMOD Sep 2016 #11
No, but pro athletes tend to be Republican... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #20
I agree! BTW are you kin to a person who screen name was Wandering Bear Jim Beard Sep 2016 #7
No relation... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #13
Grr.... I am so sick of the right slamming Hillary for deleting e-mails. Initech Sep 2016 #6
+1 ronnie624 Sep 2016 #12
So basically 'I firmly believe in whatever looks best for my candidate'. Marr Sep 2016 #18
That is precisely it. demmiblue Sep 2016 #25
... Catherine Vincent Sep 2016 #23
that is a very generous view of him spewing reichwing bs. niyad Sep 2016 #24
Colin must hate taco trucks underpants Sep 2016 #26
had never heard of the guy before--all publicity is good publicity? niyad Sep 2016 #27
We're supposed to hate him now? Geez, I can't keep up. Throd Sep 2016 #28
Colin's been thrown under the DU bus TSIAS Sep 2016 #29
He threw our candidate under the bus. pintobean Sep 2016 #30
Looks like he'll be voting for Trump TSIAS Sep 2016 #31

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
1. So, it's ok for him to have an opinion...until it's an unfavorable one?
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:46 PM
Sep 2016

Agree or disagree, he has every right to voice his opinion.

niyad

(113,315 posts)
22. please note, it isn't my piece. he has every right to voice his opinions, including
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 12:40 PM
Sep 2016

sitting out the anthem. and the rest of us have every right to voice our opinions of his opinions.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
3. Whatever....
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 12:23 AM
Sep 2016

I defend his right to sit out the national anthem, and I understand and empathize with his reasons. But it doesn't surprise me that he has Republican opinions, most millionaires do.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
5. Thankfully he dislikes trump even more.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 01:08 AM
Sep 2016

But I'm sure he's not stupid enough to not vote for Hillary.

You'd have to be a really idiot to do that.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
15. Nah this is straight from the news
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 10:35 AM
Sep 2016

"I mean, you have Hillary who's called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump who's openly racist. I mean, we have a presidential candidate who's deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you'd be in prison."

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. as a seahawks fan, i can assure you
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 12:24 PM
Sep 2016

kaepernick IS an idiot.

if he's holding out standing for the anthem until America stops being racist, he'll never stand for it again. which is fine with me - i could give a fuck about that song, too.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. That's exactly my thought.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 11:01 AM
Sep 2016

Everything he says sounds like it came right off Facebook or Twitter.

Wonder if he's even registered to vote.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
20. No, but pro athletes tend to be Republican...
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 11:56 AM
Sep 2016

when you sign multi-million dollar contracts, you tend to favor the party that "protects" you from Democratic taxation policies.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
7. I agree! BTW are you kin to a person who screen name was Wandering Bear
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 01:17 AM
Sep 2016

Read his post a long time ago on Time message boards.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
6. Grr.... I am so sick of the right slamming Hillary for deleting e-mails.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 01:09 AM
Sep 2016

Where were they when Bush and Cheney deleted 33 MILLION e-mails that actually did contain intelligence that could have prevented the Iraq War from happening? Where the fuck were they??? The hypocrisy reeks!!

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
12. +1
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 02:10 AM
Sep 2016

But it's virtually the entire media establishment that perpetuates the false equivalence between the two parties.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
23. ...
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sep 2016

I don't know this player's history on politics, but I'm thinking he threw that Hillary remark in there to ease some of the scorn he knew he would receive from conservative republicans out there.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
29. Colin's been thrown under the DU bus
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 01:23 PM
Sep 2016

I guess liberals now prefer the likes of Henry Kissinger to Colin Kaepernick.

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