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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:11 AM Sep 2016

Experts at Fox News, who study Clinton enough, make an amazing discovery...

Hillary Clinton’s ‘Invisible Guiding Hand’
Meet the little-known statistician behind the Democratic nominee's most important strategic decisions.

BROOKLYN, N.Y. — There are only a handful of corner offices inside Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters, and they are mostly occupied by familiar names: campaign manager Robby Mook, campaign chairman John Podesta, and Huma Abedin, her ubiquitous confidante.

Then there is Elan Kriegel.

Overlooking downtown Brooklyn in two directions, Kriegel’s skyline view is the backdrop for what is on the windows themselves: erasable marker scribblings reminiscent of A Beautiful Mind that amount to some of the earliest drafts of the computer algorithms that underlie nearly all of the Clinton campaign’s most important strategic decisions.

Ten years ago, the idea that Kriegel would be a senior Clinton adviser would have seemed unthinkable. Yes, he was studying Clinton’s public movements closely then. But that was only because his first job in politics was as a producer for Bill O’Reilly, the conservative Fox News host and Clinton antagonist.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-data-campaign-elan-kriegel-214215#ixzz4JZu8VHgb


Kriegel left the O'Reilly cycle of lies, at Fox, to go back to school for a statistics degree and took a position with the Democratic National Committee by the 2010 cycle, and then on Obama’s 2012 campaign. "Experts" ANYWHERE that compare Clinton to Trump in an objective, rational manner will quickly discover they support plans proposed, by Hillary Clinton, over insane, unachievable, babbling by Trump.
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Experts at Fox News, who study Clinton enough, make an amazing discovery... (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 OP
While I am not an "expert," the OP was written to obtain "expert" commentary... Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #1
Very interesting article. Data analytics is a super hot and high paying/high profile field now. LonePirate Sep 2016 #2
Do you find it interesting that he began a media career, producing for Fox? Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #3
It seems like that was just a filler job for the paycheck. LonePirate Sep 2016 #4
a big investment Angel Martin Sep 2016 #5
Well said oswaldactedalone Sep 2016 #6
with TV and other media, he is called Teflon Don, Dump-rh Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #7
Hitler was a charismatic leader. Did you read of Trump's plan to create a Nazi-type brigade at DHS? Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #8

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
2. Very interesting article. Data analytics is a super hot and high paying/high profile field now.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

He will receive credit for a close win or he will receive blame for a loss. However, he will likely go uncredited for a blowout victory if that happens.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
3. Do you find it interesting that he began a media career, producing for Fox?
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Sep 2016

Good television producers are hard to find and harder to keep. Competition is fierce over qualified producers. Other stations would have probably paid more than Democrats for real talent in television production. I'll present reports by "experts" to support comments, induced, by personal experience in media, later...

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
4. It seems like that was just a filler job for the paycheck.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:11 PM
Sep 2016

I think his passion is with his current work. Of course if he is truly a Republican and is performing some sort of masterful internal sabotage, he will suddenly lose his current obscurity.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
5. a big investment
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 03:28 PM
Sep 2016

the Clinton campaign is making a big investment in Kriegel's shop. With 60 people at an average of at least $10-15 K per month, that's getting near $1 mil per month.

I certainly don't go as far as Trump, but I do think predictive modelling works better for marketing than for predicting citizen and business interactions with gov't (eg. program fraud, survey-nonresponse). It's not that modelling doesn't doesn't work in these areas, but it doesn't significantly outperform more traditional methods and it costs a lot.

In terms of political campaigns, I'm not sure if campaigns are more like marketing, or more like gov't-citizen interaction.

For example, in the Brexit campaign, Remain had a huge advantage in terms of access to political party databases that was denied to Leave. Even so, both official campaigns hired analytics shops to help them target and persuade voters. Both sides used the most up to date analytic targetting and persuasion methods.

It is ironic, therefore, that Farage and UKIP are now credited with having a significant impact on the outcome, even though they were not part of the official Leave campaign, and what they did was basically distribute Farage speeches and campaign events via Facebook.

http://www.referendumanalysis.eu/eu-referendum-analysis-2016/section-7-social-media/leave-versus-remain-the-digital-battle/

I think the lesson is that analytics can help (eg 2012 Obama), but it won't be enough against a persuasive campaign presented by charismatic leaders (eg. Farage, Johnson)



oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
6. Well said
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 05:54 PM
Sep 2016

which is why Drumpf's Twitter campaign is so effective and Hillary's TV ads are falling flat. Drumpf moves the needle with this tweets while Hillary's ads keep her in neutral. Her TV ads are not working. Who is giving the go ahead on these lame ads, and why aren't they more hard hitting?

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