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Botany

(70,508 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:33 AM Sep 2016

I am so proud of my President and his trip to Laos

https://medium.com/the-white-house/after-war-a-new-legacy-of-peace-in-laos-26c43019c8fe#.1iwhwd7n0

During the Vietnam War, the U.S. dropped more than 2 million tons of bombs over Laos — more than the number of bombs dropped on Germany and Japan combined during all of World War II. Sadly, the people in Laos continue to feel the tragic consequences, long after the last bomb fell.

Too many of these bombs did not detonate at the time. The war left most of the land contaminated with active, unexploded ordnance (UXO), in the form of cluster bombs, bullets, grenades, and mines.

They’ve taken the lives of over 20,000 Lao — often a child playing outside, or a farmer who has no choice but to cultivate on contaminated fields.

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And I never thought that an American president would come to Laos to acknowledge the wounds that we still suffer from a decades-old war while offering resources to build a new legacy of peace.

Kop chai lai lai — thank you.

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I am so proud of my President and his trip to Laos. Barack didn't have to go Laos and there was nothing
in it for him outside of doing the right thing and keeping more people from becoming victims of our
left over bombs. I am going to miss that man.

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I am so proud of my President and his trip to Laos (Original Post) Botany Sep 2016 OP
K & R femmocrat Sep 2016 #1
I think his experiences in Indonesia has had a lot of influence on him loyalsister Sep 2016 #2
No doubt those times helped to build the man we see today. Botany Sep 2016 #3
That's what I was getting at loyalsister Sep 2016 #5
I was doing election protection work for Obama in 2008 or 2012 and we were told ..... Botany Sep 2016 #6
I too will treasure every minute of his remaining term. MBS Sep 2016 #9
" " " " n/t MBS Sep 2016 #10
K & R ...... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #4
Someday, in the far, far future gratuitous Sep 2016 #7
And one more thing awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #8

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
2. I think his experiences in Indonesia has had a lot of influence on him
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:32 AM
Sep 2016

Few of us remember our childhoods and think about being in as close proximity to war as he spent some of his. He lived in an area that had a military presence and heard stories from his stepfather about being a kid and growing up in a war zone. Learning that someone his age had lived with a fear of death has to have stayed with him. When I learn about trips like this, I suspect that having a sense of what it means to be a child in a war zone or recent war zone carries a lot of weight.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
3. No doubt those times helped to build the man we see today.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:40 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

And also I think he went there and took on this work because he thinks this
is the right thing to do. The picture at the link of President Obama looking up
at the prosthetic limbs is haunting and you can see that it hurts him to see
them too.

He really is a good man.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. That's what I was getting at
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sep 2016

I reread a piece of Dreams From My Father where he talks about his stepfather. I think the stepfather probably could not begin to understand the gravity of what he was saying.

Obama asked why a man was killed and his stepfather explained it this way. "Because he was weak...... That's usually enough. Men take advantage of weakness in other men. They're just like countries in that way..... He makes the weak man work in his fields.... Which would you rather be? Better to be strong. If you can't be strong, be clever and make peace with someone who's strong. But always better to be strong yourself."

It's easy to see why that would be memorable. I wonder if he sees the US as the strong one that should be open to peace efforts from weaker entities?

Botany

(70,508 posts)
6. I was doing election protection work for Obama in 2008 or 2012 and we were told .....
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:27 PM
Sep 2016

... that we were always supposed to be calm and never cause a public problem
because Barack Obama is called "no drama Obama" for a reason and yes he gets
upset in private but never in public and we had to reflect those values.

Barack Obama is a complex and thoughtful man and we are lucky that he has
been POTUS and will be for the next 5 months.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
9. I too will treasure every minute of his remaining term.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:53 AM
Sep 2016

We have been lucky to have him as president for two terms. And the Laos trip was one of the many transcendent things he's done that,even if drowned out by (in this case) stupid election melodrama or misrepresented or ignored by others, will resonate for a long time after he leaves the White House.

I love your story about 2008 and 2012; that must have been an amazing experience.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
4. K & R ......
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:58 AM
Sep 2016

no doubt he'll get slammed for "apologizing" and shit like that. Last I heard, real adults apologize for their screwups. The covert war in Laos doesn't get enough press here in the States, much like many of the times we have overreached over the decades.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Someday, in the far, far future
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 01:07 PM
Sep 2016

The United States may mature enough as a country to not just acknowledge our part in atrocities, but actually apologize for them and make full reparations to the people and the lands we've damaged.

But it won't be anytime soon.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
8. And one more thing
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:17 PM
Sep 2016

Asking if we can send people over to help find and defuse these things. Relationships are built by working together.

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