Who believe the moon landings were faked.

because you saw video of a real moon landing.

I watched it LIVE! I was 12 years old.

the old 911 forum on DU2 was a hopping place - people supporting holograms, mini-nukes, space based directed energy weapons were all there.

Plus, critical thinking is not universally valued.

when talking about 9/11. Can we at least agree about that?

You need tin foil. Aluminum doesn't block all the rays

Thanks.

They are here, they are all around us, we don't know it, but they are here

He's as big a kook as the guy in the OP.

"Molten metal months after?"

"Hijackers turned up alive afterwards?"

"Plane was vaporized?"

He just post links with no discussion. If you get any type of detailed answer, I will be surprised.

They refuse to spend a minute of their own time responding in their own words, but they post links to novels and hour long videos (mostly on irrelevant tangents) expecting you to do the work for them.

He does that for almost every topic he posts on. Links with a cut and paste, and no comment.

I'm not taking your bait

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You're asking me to do some critical thinking and research a subject that will only upset me more and more the further I look into it? No thanks. Willful ignorance is much more blissful.

Truthers must be kooks. The alternative is too upsetting to contemplate.

it is possible to question what happened on 911 without resorting to fantasy, pseudo-science or facts that have been repeatedly debunked.

If there was an illegal conspiracy to let it happen or make it happen, a good defense to avoid being caught and prosecuted would be to put out a bunch of extra conspiracy theories -- some crazy and some plausible. And of course, all the while to degrade any theorizing of any conspiracy, flaunting the conspiracies made especially for the purpose of sounding crazy to prove ones own point to the half-way attentive.

Think tanks are great at this.

MIHOP did not mean that the Bush administration planned the type of attack, flew the planes, remotely flew planes, planted explosives, on and on: all or any of these. It meant that Bush administration would (1) tell Afghanistan to expect a "carpet of gold, or a carpet of bombs," for example, or (2) reward top FBI people who stopped investigation a computer that was found, or, (3) disband daily security meetings, or (4) ignore dire presidential security briefs (4) ignore warnings from France, and, or, oh, there are more facts.

That kind of stuff.

No planers, planted explosives, ... are smoke that could hide a real conspiracy.

. . .were the result of hubris and incompetence. The result would be the same, wouldn't it? And no conspiracy is needed, right?

You don't consider hubris and incompetence attributes of that administration?

The dolt is guilty of actions. The smart one, is really the guilty one. I can feel sorry for the dolt's hubris and incompetence.

So, which one made it happen?

Let it, Made it, Helped it, can all mean the same thing, I suppose.

Except the whole gang was full of so many dolts, that "smart" became a relative term. I think it was arrogance and ignorance. There is nothing i wouldn't expect that crowd to screw up.

I am insulted by the OP.there are many here who do not believe the official story, and this is insulting to them (me). I could be considered a "truther". I have my own theories, and to be labeled as crazy is not only a group characterization but also an insult to many here on DU.

Just think if I had posted "9-11 non truthers are crazy".

The rest are either "truthers" who propose outlandish theories or "true believers" who accept the official story of the Bush administration without question.

And if I cannot post anything about 9-11 here, that could be considered a conspiracy theory (and that includes anything at all here on DU) then certainly a post or thread disparaging people that do not believe the official story (truthers by definition) should be taken down. It is insulting to everyone that doesn't believe the official story.

fact. Can anyone believe JFK (or Robbie, for that matter) was done in by someone who had no reason to doit, and could in no way benefit from it (Oswald was prolly a ONI agent, ie the navy CIA) yet went to immense lengths, even scoring himself a min wage job in texas a few days prior JFK visit- Lee Oswald, a GI who knew nothing else since joining up at 17? And FDR- could the fascist have nuked Japan, demonized USSR and terrorised the amercan folk had FDR not been poisoned (Stalin said to his henchmen that "it's over, we're done for for, the fascistss too well organized' when he learned FDR was killed)...Archae, you're a old hand here at DU....and if you're right about the punks who staged 911 (they were innocent!!) then good, but lookit what has been done! We're a doomed species living on a dying planet, and the goofs can destroy society with one nuke device (it shut down all electronics motors etc) literally hundreds of millions of humanity will die, and it to late to say ' we shoulda stopped the fascasts before they got so loony!"
Let's just say I hope you're right (about the truth) cuz we being wrong is going to spell disaster for the future

that affiliate is 1010 WINS radio.
I find this outrageous.
this is the event:
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/39/37/dtg-christopher-bollyn-speech-controversy-2016-09-09-bk.html
Bollyn says that Jews are behind 911

"The leftist organizations that use the Commons as an office — including socialist magazine Jacobin, the Marxist Education Project, and anti-gentrification activist group Furee — published an open letter denouncing the talk, while others flooded its social media pages with complaints, including Councilman Brad Lander (D–Park Slope), who tweeted that it was “highly distressing” to see the venue hosting an “anti-Semitic conspiracy nut”