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niyad

(113,318 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:18 PM Sep 2016

Female WWII pilot Elaine Harmon will finally be laid to rest at Arlington

Female WWII pilot Elaine Harmon will finally be laid to rest at Arlington



ARLINGTON, Va. -- It took an act of Congress, but World War II pilot Elaine Harmon is finally being laid to rest on Wednesday at Arlington National Cemetery.

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/09/07/0d768b8b-4e78-407a-8e15-ba9846f5a85c/crop/3000x1686+0+0/resize/620xg2/77ea90220e3cc18260680cc648227e77/elaine-harmon-97611102.jpg

Harmon died last year at age 95. She was one of the Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP), a group of women who flew military aircraft on noncombat missions during World War II so that men were freed up for combat. The women were not granted military status at the time they served, but received retroactive status as veterans in 1977. And for many years, WASPs were eligible to have their ashes placed in urns at Arlington. Last year, though, Army officials concerned about limited space at the cemetery ruled WASPs ineligible for inclusion at Arlington. A memo from then-Army Secretary John McHugh concluded that Arlington never should have granted eligibility to WASPs in the first place.

Harmon had left handwritten instructions to be inurned at Arlington, but the cemetery’s director denied the request, saying serving in the WASPs “is not the same as active duty service as a member of the Department of Defense,” CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reported in March. “The Army said no to the wrong family,” Harmon’s granddaughter Erin Miller told Martin.

Harmon’s family fought the rule. In December, an Associated Press article about the family’s campaign​ prompted widespread criticism of the Army for excluding WASPs. A petition on change.org received more than 175,000 signatures. In May, President Obama signed legislation allowing WASPs in Arlington. The legislation was sponsored by Rep. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., herself a retired Air Force pilot who was the first female fighter pilot in U.S. history to fly in combat.

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Kate Landdeck, a Texas Woman’s University history professor who has researched the WASPs, said roughly 1,000 women served as WASPs while the program was in effect from 1942 to 1944. Thirty-eight were killed. Fewer than 100 are still alive, Landdeck said. The youngest is 93. The women, who test-flew repaired military aircraft, trained combat pilots and towed airborne targets that other pilots fired at with live ammunition, received the Congressional Gold Medal in 2009, but the campaign to get them into Arlington exposed even more people to WASPs’ role in history. “No one knew who these women were in the 1990s,” Landdeck said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/female-wwii-pilot-elaine-harmon-laid-to-rest-arlington-national-cemetery/


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-elaine-harmon-inurned-20160906-story.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-arlington-cemetery-female-pilot-20160907-story.html

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Female WWII pilot Elaine Harmon will finally be laid to rest at Arlington (Original Post) niyad Sep 2016 OP
... CrispyQ Sep 2016 #1
that clueless, sexist asshole is absolutely despicable. niyad Sep 2016 #2
I fixed the quote. wildeyed Sep 2016 #5
thank you so much for correcting the quote and making it accurate. niyad Sep 2016 #7
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #15
I have a great idea to make more space for the cemetery... geomon666 Sep 2016 #3
two excellent thooughts niyad Sep 2016 #4
Long over due. She served her country well. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #6
she, and the other 1,084 WASPs niyad Sep 2016 #8
Good! When I was a teenager I used to babysit for the grandchildren of Betty Gillies mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #9
how wonderful--did she share a lot of stories with you? niyad Sep 2016 #11
Not directly. The grandchildren were her son's kids. mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #17
I wish I could give this a thousand recs. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #10
they do, indeed. the indifferent, and, indeed, hostile treatment they have received from the niyad Sep 2016 #12
I never knew a Wasp but I remember clearly both my mom and my WWII vet dad . . . . Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #13
your parents were clearly very aware people. niyad Sep 2016 #14
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #16
Big k/r. Orrex Sep 2016 #18
the treatment these women received was just insulting and despicable. to this day, though, there niyad Sep 2016 #20
That Was Some Pretty Brave Stuff They Did ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #19
you have that correct!!! don't forget, those targets were being shot at with live ammunition!! niyad Sep 2016 #21
That's What I Meant! ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #22
nor am I!! niyad Sep 2016 #23

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
1. ...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

"...then Army Secretary John McHugh concluded that Arlington never should have granted eligibility to WASPs in the first place."

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
5. I fixed the quote.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 01:41 PM
Sep 2016

"...then Army Secretary John McHugh concluded that WASPs had not suffered enough indignities from sexist military men while alive, that the tradition of minimizing their patriotism and sacrifice would continue, even after their deaths."

Glad the families fought this.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
3. I have a great idea to make more space for the cemetery...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:48 PM
Sep 2016

Bulldoze the Pentagon. Or they can just stop sending these people out to die for no good reason.

mnhtnbb

(31,390 posts)
9. Good! When I was a teenager I used to babysit for the grandchildren of Betty Gillies
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Sep 2016

(in the mid-1960's) who lived down the road from us. Betty Gillies was the first pilot to qualify for the Women's Auxiliary Ferrying Squadron, which later was joined with the WASP's.
So I knew who they were!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Gillies

I'm glad to see these women getting the recognition they deserve.

niyad

(113,318 posts)
11. how wonderful--did she share a lot of stories with you?
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sep 2016

thank you for the link. what an amazing woman!!!

mnhtnbb

(31,390 posts)
17. Not directly. The grandchildren were her son's kids.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:53 AM
Sep 2016

My mom--from the Betty Gillies' generation--was the one who first told me who she was.

niyad

(113,318 posts)
12. they do, indeed. the indifferent, and, indeed, hostile treatment they have received from the
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 09:57 PM
Sep 2016

government all this time has been absolutely disgraceful.

Stinky The Clown

(67,800 posts)
13. I never knew a Wasp but I remember clearly both my mom and my WWII vet dad . . . .
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:19 PM
Sep 2016

. . . . talking about them as forgotten vets. This was a LONG time coming.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
18. Big k/r.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:51 AM
Sep 2016

I've been following your posts on this subject for some time.

I'm gratified that Harmon received her due honor, but holy shit what a load of garbage she (and her peers) had to deal with to get there.

K/R!

niyad

(113,318 posts)
20. the treatment these women received was just insulting and despicable. to this day, though, there
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:08 AM
Sep 2016

are people, even on this board, who defend the disgusting sexism of their treatment.

ProfessorGAC

(65,049 posts)
19. That Was Some Pretty Brave Stuff They Did
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:56 AM
Sep 2016

Towing targets? No thanks.

Test flying repaired planes. No thanks.

And, they weren't veterans until 32 years after the fact? Silly

ProfessorGAC

(65,049 posts)
22. That's What I Meant!
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:22 AM
Sep 2016

Technically, that's being shot at! So, ok the other pilots weren't shooting right at their airplane, but if they're still in training, it means they're not as good as they're going to be. Which puts those women in pretty much the same place as a fighter pilot getting shot at.

I am not signing up for that gig.

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