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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 06:26 PM Sep 2016

Vietnam veterans and Iraq veterans have a lot in common.

Neither war was popular with the public. The soldiers were not to blame for either war. It was the political leadership of this country that decided we should be in both of those wars. Mostly, the people respected the troops that fought in both wars. However, they lost a lot of respect for our leaders.

Neither was perceived to be a just or necessary war. Each of them tore at the fabric or our being as a nation. If a country gets three strikes before they are out, we now have two strikes against us. We must be very careful about getting into another land war.

Democrat or Republican, the decision to vote for the Commander in Chief may be the most important vote of our lifetimes? We should put the lives of our troops at risk as a last resort. That is the position that our Commander in Chief should hold. That is the position that shows who really cares about the welfare of our troops.

Those that are too quick to send our troops into a land war should be avoided like the plague.

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Vietnam veterans and Iraq veterans have a lot in common. (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2016 OP
As a Vietnam vet, I have to disagree. Never heard a "thank you for your service" until 1991. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #1
When I got home in 1968 I did not dare say I was a Vietnam vet. upaloopa Sep 2016 #5
I still think the majority of people respected the returning veterans but... kentuck Sep 2016 #6
Since Hillary voted to invade iraq, I dont think your post makes sense. Travis_0004 Sep 2016 #2
Hillary had a vote in that, yes madokie Sep 2016 #3
I disagree. nt cwydro Sep 2016 #4
I'm an Afghanistan guy... TipTok Sep 2016 #7
I disagree. mentalsolstice Sep 2016 #8
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. As a Vietnam vet, I have to disagree. Never heard a "thank you for your service" until 1991.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016

That was after the first Gulf War. That "thank you" was pushed as a way to score by politicians. I never wanted to be thanked and neither did most that served in Vietnam, or Korea, or WWII. Most people did not, and still do not respect Vietnam vets. It is like PTSD just started with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Nobody lost a limb either, evidently. Nobody screamed about the way the VA treated us. Yeah, it is the same now as it was 45 years ago - regardless of what you might hear on the news. I'm not bitter, just feel the need to remind people that there are many forgotten veterans.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. When I got home in 1968 I did not dare say I was a Vietnam vet.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:31 PM
Sep 2016

Putting that on a resume or job application was a real no no. We were walking time bombs and baby killers.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
6. I still think the majority of people respected the returning veterans but...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 08:44 PM
Sep 2016

when we have unpopular wars, there are severe consequences. It does tear at the fabric of our country. There have been troops forgotten in both wars. They have that in common. The mere "Thank you for your service" is a nice sentiment but it does not change the reality of what has happened to our young people that have been sent into battle. There is a deep price to pay for bad military decisions. What do we want from a Commander in Chief?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
2. Since Hillary voted to invade iraq, I dont think your post makes sense.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 06:54 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary was too quick to send our troops into a land war.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
3. Hillary had a vote in that, yes
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:06 PM
Sep 2016

that vote was based on lies and we all know that to be true. It was going to pass irregardless of Hillary's vote and you know that. I think Hillary has a lot more compassion for other people than tRump does so I feel she is by far the better choice to lead us into the future


Bernie has my heart, Hill has my vote

it took me all of a few days, maybe a week at most to realize what we were doing in 'Nam was as wrong as wrong could be but I was there and other than run I was stuck

I came home in awe of the Vietnamese people. Due to the fact they were doing as I would have done under the same circumstances. Defending their home land from invaders.

When I go to see my doctor I see a lot of Iraq and Afghanistan Vets and I feel their pain too. I want to hug them all My guys and girls too

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
7. I'm an Afghanistan guy...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:15 PM
Sep 2016

... And while there are tons of issues in the modern military, it was way worse for the Vietnam vets.

mentalsolstice

(4,460 posts)
8. I disagree.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:26 PM
Sep 2016

My FiL was a WWII vet, my husband was in country in Vietnam for 14 months, and his nephew served two 6 month tours in Afghanistan. On Vet's Day and Memorial Day, my husband's family acts like his dad and his nephew walked on water for their service, crickets for my husband. My FiL even once said that he was ashamed of my husband's service.

My husband's nephew bitched and complained on FaceBook the whole time he was enlisted in the USMC, pretty much everyday when in Afghanistan. And he has bitched and complained his entire time while he's been at FSU on the GI bill, because the administration, other students and the liberal professors don't show him the respect he feels he deserves.

I'm not saying all current vets are bad, most have served honorably, however, comparing them to Vietnam vets is apples and oranges.

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