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(22,671 posts)
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 02:34 AM Sep 2016

Donald Trump’s Big Lies at the Commander-in-Chief Forum - NewYorker


One big difference between Trump and Hillary Clinton is that Clinton has been punished for shading the truth.

According to many accounts, it was the young Adolf Hitler who coined the term “Big Lie.”
In his 1925 tract, “Mein Kampf,” he wrote that “the broad masses” are more likely to “fall victims to the big lie than the small lie,” because “It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

Contrary to some accounts, neither Hitler nor his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, took credit for successfully using what the French refer to as le grand mensonge: the Nazi leaders always claimed they were telling the truth.

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Donald Trump, we can safely assume, hasn’t been studying the origin of the phrase. But for many months now he has been repeating a very sizable whopper: the claim that he opposed the Iraq War all along.
He said it again on Wednesday night, aboard the U.S.S. Intrepid, where he appeared at a “Commander-in-Chief Forum” that was broadcast on NBC and MSNBC. “I was totally against the war in Iraq,” Trump told the moderator, Matt Lauer. “You can look at Esquire magazine from ’04. You can look at before that.”

Actually, plenty of people—journalists, fact-checkers, opposition researchers—have followed Trump’s advice, and what they have discovered is that there is no public record of him criticizing the war before it began. But there is a record of Trump saying he supported it. On September 11, 2002, he appeared on “The Howard Stern Show,” where the host asked him if he was “for invading Iraq.” Trump replied, “Yeah, I guess so. I wish the first time it was done correctly.” This wasn’t the most fulsome of endorsements, it is true. But it clearly indicated that Trump backed sending in troops to overthrow Saddam Hussein. - NewYorker


Whoopsie! The lies keep building up and are coming home to roost in peoples' minds. The analogies aren't very flattering either.

John Cassidy goes further, detailing lie after lie and trying to determine if the lie is big or small. Does it matter? It's still a lie!

Donald Trump is untrustworthy as the day is long.
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Donald Trump’s Big Lies at the Commander-in-Chief Forum - NewYorker (Original Post) ffr Sep 2016 OP
K&R... spanone Sep 2016 #1
I'm surprised this particular lie is being pushed back against by MSM wishstar Sep 2016 #2
Tweety believes he was against the war too. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #3
Mathews thought Bush was manly roscoeroscoe Sep 2016 #4
KICK... thanks ffr Cha Sep 2016 #5

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
2. I'm surprised this particular lie is being pushed back against by MSM
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 03:16 AM
Sep 2016

He tells so many egregious whoppers that have gone unchallenged by the media, but the forum seems to have turned the tide against him judging from the media pile on over his Iraq lie.

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