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Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:34 PM Sep 2016

I don't know what to make out of this, but..

I'm throwing it in because I think it's relevant.

I remember not too long ago one of George Bush's defenders stated that they went into Iraq because people wanted to strike back. They wanted to see action And, as we already know, Bush's supporters have a problem when it comes to differentiating groups, culture and historical details. So, even if they now recognize that we destablized the Middle East by attacking Iraq, there is also the belief that "Atleast Bush did something positive."

What?

Yes, I heard that very comment this week. I spent time this last week with the mother of a young man who died on 9/11. I remember in the months after it happened, I tried to tell her that we believed Saudi Arabia was involved, but you could tell that she wasn't absorbing this information. Who could blame her? She lost her son and her grief is unimagiinable.

I saw her several times afterward, but we never talked about her loss. Not until this week when she made the surprising comment that "At least Bush did something positive by going into Iraq." I asked her, "you do know that going into Iraq created Isis, don't you?" Her husband nodded, affirmatively.

What I took away from that is that politicians, and especially the warring Republicans, exploited the pain of sympathetic survivors from 9/11. It was an improper use of someone's private tragedy for personal gain.

I think most of us would be hesitant to step in and tell a mother who lost someone in that tragic event that she was grieving in the wrong way. But I came close to doing just that because I knew that this wonderful, kind woman just needed someone to remind her that no one should get satisfaction from sending young men and women to retaliate militarily in a war that had no justification. Facts matter. And claiming that we had bad Intel is just letting the guilty go free, without consequences.

Until Republicans recognize that there was nothing good that came out of taking out Iraq, we will always be at the mercy of improper use of our military to handle national security concerns.

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I don't know what to make out of this, but.. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Sep 2016 OP
Bush had plans to invade Iraq before 9-11. All that did was simply give him cover. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #1
The day Shrub was selected, justgamma Sep 2016 #2
Wolfowitz was on Meet the Press today with the usual excuses Major Nikon Sep 2016 #3
There's no accounting for how logic works for some people pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #4

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
1. Bush had plans to invade Iraq before 9-11. All that did was simply give him cover.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:10 PM
Sep 2016

There have been a few from his admin come out and say so, Armitage is one of them.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
2. The day Shrub was selected,
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:54 PM
Sep 2016

I looked at my hubby and said "We're going to bomb Iraq." If people didn't know this, they weren't paying attention during the election. He gave enough hints.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. Wolfowitz was on Meet the Press today with the usual excuses
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:13 AM
Sep 2016

When he was finally asked who's fault the fuckup was he said it was Saddam's.

Why the media even allows coverage of the dipshit who gave us Cold War 2.0 AND the Iraq War is beyond me. He should only be referenced when the discussion asks who is the biggest fuckup in American History.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. There's no accounting for how logic works for some people
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:46 AM
Sep 2016

While volunteering for Kerry in Ohio in '04 I met a woman on election day who said she'd voted for Bush. Her reason: He screwed it up, so he should be the one to fix it.

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