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The George W. Bush White House Lost 22 Million Emails
By Nina Burleigh On 9/12/16 at 7:31 AM
For 18 months, Republican strategists, political pundits, reporters and Americans who follow them have been pursuing Hillary Clintons personal email habits, and no evidence of a crime has been found. But now they at least have the skills and interest to focus on a much larger and deeper email conspiracy, one involving war, lies, a private server run by the Republican Party and contempt of Congress citationsall of it still unsolved and unpunished.
Clintons email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House lost 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in Americas recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.
Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email serverits was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. Its about as amazing a double standard as you can get, says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clintons emails set up on a private DNC server?
http://www.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rx=us
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)"that's just lies made up by the liberals to take attention from Hillary should be in jail."
These are things I actually hear from real live people.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)And they vote.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)years before this election.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They_Live
(3,233 posts)and even before that.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Breaking those rules was an ethical lapse that revealed secretive efforts, end of story. Forgive, get over it, and move on.
The defensiveness and "the other guy did it first" narrative are what is keeping this on the radar.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)stuff about Hillary ( the pictures with a statement about emails ) that have traveled all over the internet . I posted an
article about about the 22 million emails that went missing from Bush , have not seen one more statement or picture about emails on my facebook since .
Another friend of my friend posted about how many embassies were attacked under bush ( 13) have not seen another post about Benghazi on my facebook . Can not find picture she had that listed out the embassies his under Bush , here is article though
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/
rivegauche
(601 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)What happened?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Remember that one?
jalan48
(13,870 posts)If even a tenth of the secret Bush Administration bullshit had been exposed Hillary's "Email Scandal" would pale in comparison. But then, that's the problem, Republican's are able to talk ad nauseam about it because there is no perspective.
aggiesal
(8,916 posts)bastard, evil incarnate of a man Cheney, had all the top Democratic leadership
bugged, and has all kinds of dirt on them.
Go ahead, impeach us, and we'll leak all this other info we've gathered to the press.
Somebody once said, that nothing in D.C. happens by coincidence or by accident.
If it happened, it's because someone wanted it to happen.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Well, for starters, the economy was on the verge of collapse, and had they let it happen, it could have led to a worldwide depression that would make the Great Depression look like an economic paradise. 800,000 people, including myself, were losing our jobs per month. (Many of us STILL haven't recovered from that.) And, then there were the two wars the Busheviks lied us into, which were sending us hundreds of maimed military personnel every month, who needed care. And, that is just the huge tip of the iceberg. The "Democrat's" had a lot bigger problems to deal with than the Bush Administration deleting their e-mails.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)It's easy to forget, if you weren't one of those whose life was ruined by it.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)And it's deeply frightening to realize how much worse it could have been, if Obama hadn't been able to wring out of the Rethugs support for the measures that helped us turn the corner.
And, it's also tremendously infuriating to think how much better off we would all be if those filthy-ass republicans would have put their country before their putrid political agenda. I hope they all get to experience what they forced on us--a million times over. Fucking fuckers. There are no words to express the contempt I hold for the lot of them--and for those who vote for them.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)They had enough time to look into the Bush Administration's activities. It could have been part of the review of the war efforts taking place. They chose not to. That's what happened.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I really don't think you understand how dire the economic situation was, if you think that the Democrats had time to "look into the Bush Administration's activities" in that short period of time. Not to mention that they had McConnell and his cronies obstructing everything they tried to do, in order to "make Obama a one-term president." To say that the Democrats "chose not to" do anything is simplistic and misguided.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Sorry, I don't buy the "We were too busy" argument. Bush, Cheney (Halliburton), etc. were corrupt, evil fuckers that needed to be investigated and jailed. We didn't even try.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)The country was hemorrhaging jobs at nearly a million per month. The Democrats had FOUR MONTHS where they could stem all the bleeding, and keep the country out of a depression from which it would likely never recover, without having the republicans obstructing everything. That includes obstruction by career employees the Busheviks had burrowed throughout the government, including the legal system. We are still trying to dig out of it. They were also trying to get healthcare reform passed. If you want to keep believing that the Democratic Congress had the time to investigate Bush and Cheney on top of all of that, then you go right ahead, if that makes you feel feel better.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)What can I say, actions, or non-actions in this case, have consequences. I'm sure there will be a new excuse next time around.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, not acting on the financial mess would have had FAR worse consequences than not seeking retribution on Bush and Cheney.
Gore Vidal was right. This is the United States of Amnesia. SMH.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Or, they only had FOUR MONTHS with a filibuster-proof Senate to get ANYTHING done. And, they were "multi-tasking." They were also, as I already said, working on health care reform and trying to deal with two wars.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Or, the ones who were losing their homes due to the mortgage crisis. Or, the ones who were dying because they couldn't afford medical attention, or who went broke when their insurance companies cut them off. I don't think they gave a shit about investigating Bush and Cheney, even though there was plenty they would find out later about the role these two had in the financial crisis.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)By the time things were sorted out enough to even know who to prosecute, Scott Brown had taken Ted Kennedy's seat, and the republicans filibustered everything in sight, and would certainly have obstructed any attempts to prosecute the banksters.
Yep. It's the United States of Amnesia.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)Obama was hell-bent on playing footsies with repukes, trying to gain some kind of favor - he wasted two years doing that shit, and NEVER held Bush INC accountable for ANYTHING
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)after Democrats won the house back? In 2009, Obama became president and the economy was in the tank, so they had other issues to focus on at the time. (Looking forward, not looking back, etc)
jalan48
(13,870 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)We uphold our values and those of our nation by not digging up all the mud of the other completely corrupt deplorable political party, but in so doing, leave a festering mess of unaccounted crimes and criminals to roam freely as if they had done nothing wrong.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)...this is planned as opposed to the "high road".
Call me a "conspiracy nut" about this but why else?
kairos12
(12,862 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)Not Hillary's pneumonia. This is a much bigger deal. I can't believe the media has been going on about Hillary's e-mails for months while ignoring Bush's e-mails.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)People really need to know this fact, in my opinion. 22 million emails !
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And team jumped the gun in Iraq and who released Valerie Plame name.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)13 embassy attacks - on Jr's watch - deplorable....
Hey look who was one of the RNC chairs - a very familiar name - Ed Gillespie -
Heads up Virginia....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/gillespie-confirms-he-is-running-for-va-governor/2015/10/02/26a6d3f2-6912-11e5-9223-70cb36460919_story.html
Former White House adviser and Republican U.S. Senate nominee Ed Gillespie confirmed Friday that he plans to run to become the governor of Virginia in 2017.
Word of Gillespies plans leaked this week after a state senator who was widely considered the GOPs most likely nominee said he would not run. But Gillespie had not commented until Friday.
W/I the article K. Cuccinelli may run also - talk about crap popping up everywhere...