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cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:40 AM Sep 2016

Newsweek: The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails

The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails

By Nina Burleigh On 9/12/16 at 7:31 AM

For 18 months, Republican strategists, political pundits, reporters and Americans who follow them have been pursuing Hillary Clinton’s personal email habits, and no evidence of a crime has been found. But now they at least have the skills and interest to focus on a much larger and deeper email conspiracy, one involving war, lies, a private server run by the Republican Party and contempt of Congress citations—all of it still unsolved and unpunished.

Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. And the Bush administration failed to store its emails, as required by law, and then refused to comply with a congressional subpoena seeking some of those emails. “It’s about as amazing a double standard as you can get,” says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. “If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers’ emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails set up on a private DNC server?”

http://www.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373?rx=us

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Newsweek: The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails (Original Post) cbdo2007 Sep 2016 OP
It is about time someone reminded the desperately stupid in this country what bush did. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #1
to paraphrase a conservative co-worker OriginalGeek Sep 2016 #2
Yeah, kind of scary. progressoid Sep 2016 #4
They feel justified in doing ANYTHING to stop us cuz were so evil. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #9
That's pretty good, that we were able to first plant those 'lies' sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #16
The Democratic Party should have been all over this 8 years ago yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #3
Yep... They_Live Sep 2016 #10
They put rules in place because of it loyalsister Sep 2016 #44
A friend of mine who is also on my facebook posted some email Kathy M Sep 2016 #5
But it's always OK when they do it! nt rivegauche Sep 2016 #6
The Democrat's could have gone after the Bush Administration in 2009. jalan48 Sep 2016 #7
"Impeachment is off the table" SHRED Sep 2016 #8
And here we are today. jalan48 Sep 2016 #11
That's because I believe that ... aggiesal Sep 2016 #14
What happened? GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #17
Best answer here. Thanks for the history reminder. n/tr pnwmom Sep 2016 #19
You are welcome. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #20
I'm so sorry that happened to you, and to so many others. pnwmom Sep 2016 #21
Thanks. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #22
The Democrats controlled Congress. jalan48 Sep 2016 #25
They controlled a filibuster-proof Congress for a whopping four months. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #29
A war that killed hundreds of thousands, torture, unaccounted for billions of dollars, etc. jalan48 Sep 2016 #31
Once again, this is what they were trying to fix at the time: GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #32
Hillary's emails and Bush's missing 22 million emails. jalan48 Sep 2016 #33
Yes. Non-actions have consequences. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #37
No multi-tasking then? jalan48 Sep 2016 #38
You don't seem to understand the enormity of the financial crisis, it appears. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #39
And that torture thing-"Sorry, we're busy!" jalan48 Sep 2016 #40
Tell that to the 800,000 people who were losing their jobs every month. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #41
And prosecuting the banksters responsible for said meltdown-"It's your lucky day, we're too busy!" jalan48 Sep 2016 #42
No. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #43
we were told to "look forward" Skittles Sep 2016 #30
do you mean 2006? NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #35
Let's not complain about Bush's lost emails then. Let's look forward, right? jalan48 Sep 2016 #36
This is what happens when democrats take the high road ffr Sep 2016 #12
I almost think... SHRED Sep 2016 #13
Shrub always got a pass. kairos12 Sep 2016 #15
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #18
This is what we should all be talking about. athena Sep 2016 #23
I don't think I have heard this mentioned on the television media ?? kentuck Sep 2016 #24
Damn, they could run for years on the emails, bet they could find out Bush Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #26
THAT IS WHY BUSH SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED !! He is a Crook and Traitor trueblue2007 Sep 2016 #27
5 RNC chairs from 2003-2011 - personal computers indeed asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #28
IOKIYAR Wednesdays Sep 2016 #34

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
2. to paraphrase a conservative co-worker
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:47 AM
Sep 2016

"that's just lies made up by the liberals to take attention from Hillary should be in jail."

These are things I actually hear from real live people.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
44. They put rules in place because of it
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

Breaking those rules was an ethical lapse that revealed secretive efforts, end of story. Forgive, get over it, and move on.
The defensiveness and "the other guy did it first" narrative are what is keeping this on the radar.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
5. A friend of mine who is also on my facebook posted some email
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
Sep 2016

stuff about Hillary ( the pictures with a statement about emails ) that have traveled all over the internet . I posted an
article about about the 22 million emails that went missing from Bush , have not seen one more statement or picture about emails on my facebook since .

Another friend of my friend posted about how many embassies were attacked under bush ( 13) have not seen another post about Benghazi on my facebook . Can not find picture she had that listed out the embassies his under Bush , here is article though

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
11. And here we are today.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sep 2016

If even a tenth of the secret Bush Administration bullshit had been exposed Hillary's "Email Scandal" would pale in comparison. But then, that's the problem, Republican's are able to talk ad nauseam about it because there is no perspective.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
14. That's because I believe that ...
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:57 PM
Sep 2016

bastard, evil incarnate of a man Cheney, had all the top Democratic leadership
bugged, and has all kinds of dirt on them.

Go ahead, impeach us, and we'll leak all this other info we've gathered to the press.

Somebody once said, that nothing in D.C. happens by coincidence or by accident.
If it happened, it's because someone wanted it to happen.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. What happened?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:36 PM
Sep 2016

Well, for starters, the economy was on the verge of collapse, and had they let it happen, it could have led to a worldwide depression that would make the Great Depression look like an economic paradise. 800,000 people, including myself, were losing our jobs per month. (Many of us STILL haven't recovered from that.) And, then there were the two wars the Busheviks lied us into, which were sending us hundreds of maimed military personnel every month, who needed care. And, that is just the huge tip of the iceberg. The "Democrat's" had a lot bigger problems to deal with than the Bush Administration deleting their e-mails.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
21. I'm so sorry that happened to you, and to so many others.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:49 PM
Sep 2016

And it's deeply frightening to realize how much worse it could have been, if Obama hadn't been able to wring out of the Rethugs support for the measures that helped us turn the corner.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
22. Thanks.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:56 PM
Sep 2016

And, it's also tremendously infuriating to think how much better off we would all be if those filthy-ass republicans would have put their country before their putrid political agenda. I hope they all get to experience what they forced on us--a million times over. Fucking fuckers. There are no words to express the contempt I hold for the lot of them--and for those who vote for them.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
25. The Democrats controlled Congress.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

They had enough time to look into the Bush Administration's activities. It could have been part of the review of the war efforts taking place. They chose not to. That's what happened.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
29. They controlled a filibuster-proof Congress for a whopping four months.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:25 PM
Sep 2016

I really don't think you understand how dire the economic situation was, if you think that the Democrats had time to "look into the Bush Administration's activities" in that short period of time. Not to mention that they had McConnell and his cronies obstructing everything they tried to do, in order to "make Obama a one-term president." To say that the Democrats "chose not to" do anything is simplistic and misguided.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
31. A war that killed hundreds of thousands, torture, unaccounted for billions of dollars, etc.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:36 PM
Sep 2016

Sorry, I don't buy the "We were too busy" argument. Bush, Cheney (Halliburton), etc. were corrupt, evil fuckers that needed to be investigated and jailed. We didn't even try.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
32. Once again, this is what they were trying to fix at the time:
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 09:34 PM
Sep 2016
http://www.economist.com/news/schoolsbrief/21584534-effects-financial-crisis-are-still-being-felt-five-years-article

The country was hemorrhaging jobs at nearly a million per month. The Democrats had FOUR MONTHS where they could stem all the bleeding, and keep the country out of a depression from which it would likely never recover, without having the republicans obstructing everything. That includes obstruction by career employees the Busheviks had burrowed throughout the government, including the legal system. We are still trying to dig out of it. They were also trying to get healthcare reform passed. If you want to keep believing that the Democratic Congress had the time to investigate Bush and Cheney on top of all of that, then you go right ahead, if that makes you feel feel better.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
33. Hillary's emails and Bush's missing 22 million emails.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:26 PM
Sep 2016

What can I say, actions, or non-actions in this case, have consequences. I'm sure there will be a new excuse next time around.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
37. Yes. Non-actions have consequences.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 01:25 PM
Sep 2016

And, not acting on the financial mess would have had FAR worse consequences than not seeking retribution on Bush and Cheney.

Gore Vidal was right. This is the United States of Amnesia. SMH.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
39. You don't seem to understand the enormity of the financial crisis, it appears.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 03:31 PM
Sep 2016

Or, they only had FOUR MONTHS with a filibuster-proof Senate to get ANYTHING done. And, they were "multi-tasking." They were also, as I already said, working on health care reform and trying to deal with two wars.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
41. Tell that to the 800,000 people who were losing their jobs every month.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 03:40 PM
Sep 2016

Or, the ones who were losing their homes due to the mortgage crisis. Or, the ones who were dying because they couldn't afford medical attention, or who went broke when their insurance companies cut them off. I don't think they gave a shit about investigating Bush and Cheney, even though there was plenty they would find out later about the role these two had in the financial crisis.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
42. And prosecuting the banksters responsible for said meltdown-"It's your lucky day, we're too busy!"
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 03:42 PM
Sep 2016

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
43. No.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 03:45 PM
Sep 2016

By the time things were sorted out enough to even know who to prosecute, Scott Brown had taken Ted Kennedy's seat, and the republicans filibustered everything in sight, and would certainly have obstructed any attempts to prosecute the banksters.

Yep. It's the United States of Amnesia.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
30. we were told to "look forward"
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:18 PM
Sep 2016

Obama was hell-bent on playing footsies with repukes, trying to gain some kind of favor - he wasted two years doing that shit, and NEVER held Bush INC accountable for ANYTHING

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
35. do you mean 2006?
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 10:08 AM
Sep 2016

after Democrats won the house back? In 2009, Obama became president and the economy was in the tank, so they had other issues to focus on at the time. (Looking forward, not looking back, etc)

ffr

(22,670 posts)
12. This is what happens when democrats take the high road
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sep 2016

We uphold our values and those of our nation by not digging up all the mud of the other completely corrupt deplorable political party, but in so doing, leave a festering mess of unaccounted crimes and criminals to roam freely as if they had done nothing wrong.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
13. I almost think...
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:57 PM
Sep 2016

...this is planned as opposed to the "high road".

Call me a "conspiracy nut" about this but why else?

athena

(4,187 posts)
23. This is what we should all be talking about.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:49 PM
Sep 2016

Not Hillary's pneumonia. This is a much bigger deal. I can't believe the media has been going on about Hillary's e-mails for months while ignoring Bush's e-mails.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
24. I don't think I have heard this mentioned on the television media ??
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 04:17 PM
Sep 2016

People really need to know this fact, in my opinion. 22 million emails !

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. Damn, they could run for years on the emails, bet they could find out Bush
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

And team jumped the gun in Iraq and who released Valerie Plame name.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
28. 5 RNC chairs from 2003-2011 - personal computers indeed
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:42 PM
Sep 2016

13 embassy attacks - on Jr's watch - deplorable....

Hey look who was one of the RNC chairs - a very familiar name - Ed Gillespie -

Heads up Virginia....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/gillespie-confirms-he-is-running-for-va-governor/2015/10/02/26a6d3f2-6912-11e5-9223-70cb36460919_story.html


Former White House adviser and Republican U.S. Senate nominee Ed Gillespie confirmed Friday that he plans to run to become the governor of Virginia in 2017.

Word of Gillespie’s plans leaked this week after a state senator who was widely considered the GOP’s most likely nominee said he would not run. But Gillespie had not commented until Friday.

W/I the article K. Cuccinelli may run also - talk about crap popping up everywhere...

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