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It made the news here in Germany as well as in Switzerland that several "refugees" fleeing deadly persecution in their homeland took a vacation, which is their right. So where did some of them go? Right back to their home countries, from whence they claimed to have fled in fear of their lives. Booked the trips openly, not even bothering to disguise what they were doing. "Whaddaya gonna do about it, huh?"
This kind of thing makes my blood boil, because it fuels far-right sentiment, and makes things unfairly difficult for the hundreds of thousands of people who really did flee in fear for their lives. Germany's intention was to offer them shelter, not a free ride on the German-financed gravy train.
Switzerland had some cases of this, too and immediately canceled the vacationers' money and their right to stay in Switzerland. Germany (so far) has done exactly nothing, except refuse to censor the reports (thank goodness for small favors). Guess where sentiment for true refugees will stay intact, and where this will be used against them?
I couldn't find a link to an English language report, sorry.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)migrants coming from non-war torn countries. Why would your governments give those people a free ride in the first place?
DFW
(54,405 posts)The economic refugees forgot to tell the people interviewing them their real purpose for coming, and no one had the time to do a lie detector test on 800,000 people, or find enough Arabic-speakers to administer the tests. Germany's bad.
Igel
(35,320 posts)then post what you have.
Even if it's in Burushaski, something is better for those who know the language than nothing. (No, I don't know Burushaski. It's my default "here's a language that probably nobody on DU knows" language. Like Soqotri or Divehi.)
Let's not thank the German government for what is, indeed, a small favor in censoring these reports.
If people who lie for the purposes of what amounts of "I want a better lifestyle" are allowed in, how about those who are indeed motivated by something inspiring a bit more zeal. Although I give them credit--if there's something that elicits zeal on the part of Westerners, it's typically wanting more money and nicer homes.
Bucky
(54,027 posts)DFW
(54,405 posts)Still looking for the one from the Swiss side. I was in Switzerland at the time it came out last week, and the guys in Zürich were talking about it, but I was on my day job, not a blogging conference.
Bucky
(54,027 posts)You should get mad if
- Syrian refugees came to Europe,
- got refugee protected status on claims that their homeland is a dangerous place, and then
- went right back to Syria for a cozy relaxing vacation, perhaps by the poolside with mojitos & a tray of nachos
But I'm willing to bet that's a flawed narrative. Consider another possibility
- Syrian refugees are fleeing a genuinely horrific situation, as documented in numerous photos & news reports,
- When they fled in panic, they left many friends & family behind and dozens of untied loose ends
- Once some got refugee protected status they went back to look after family affairs, protect their neighbors or belongings, or looked for lost family members who got forgotten in the chaotic shuffle of fleeing a brutal warzone, and
- now some rightwing propagandists are, once again, stirring up bullshit resentments against the foreign refugees they've been shown to hate in the past
Which scenario makes more sense? The simple one of evil foreigners, or the complicated story of humans caught up in troubling events they can't control?
Prhaps when the anger subsides, the OP will look at the issue more objectfully and find a little compassion for those who have lost everything.
DFW
(54,405 posts)It has everything to do with those who have lost little or nothing, and are taking advantage of limited resources we here in Germany have offered to those who REALLY have lost everything. If you are looking at violent death upon returning to your home country, then that is the last place you would go back to on a vacation paid for by money you would otherwise use for clothing your family.
DFW
(54,405 posts)This was North Africa. Maghreb, not Levant.
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)manage to get super angry over this. Things happen, people take advantage. I'm sure it's a super small percentage so ultimately it's probably not a huge deal.
DFW
(54,405 posts)It both gives fuel to far right movements that otherwise wouldn't have a leg to stand on, and it gives justification for denying help to people in desperate need of it by giving those who want no refugees at all something to point to.
In THIS particular case, it gives an irrefutable argument to those who wish to deny help to all by letting them cite a specific incident with which they can lump the rest into the same basket. The disservice done by the cynical cheaters has an effect far greater than just one negative headline, run once, ranted about, and then forgotten. That is why the Swiss response did far greater good than the German inaction. I spend most of my year here in Central Europe and speak most language spoken here. I hear the vox populi, not just the headlines read on the evening news.
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)it confirms for some that the right wing has a point. It's like when a story pops up about welfare fraud. I just don't think we can ever fully stop frauds from slipping through.
I do concede your point though that Germany should have taken action similar to Switzerland. It is better optics for sure.
DFW
(54,405 posts)But it would also have cut off the air supply of the far right, instead of watering their weed garden.