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graegoyle

(532 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:38 PM Sep 2016

Clinton should downplay her illness.

She should say something like, "I felt well enough to go, but I guess it was worse than I thought."

BUT:

Kaine and Warren and Sanders and Biden should be out there saying, "How many people go to work when they are feeling sick? This was a memorial for 3,000 Americans who died in the worst attack on American soil. The only way she wasn't going to be there is if she had two broken arms, two broken legs, and no one knew how to push a wheelchair."

And when the trolls criticize her and say she's only there for a photo op, they should say, "How dare she do that! She's acting like she was nominated to run for President or something."

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Clinton should downplay her illness. (Original Post) graegoyle Sep 2016 OP
perfect response crazylikafox Sep 2016 #1
Thanks. graegoyle Sep 2016 #4
Probably a better response than Kaine is "ready to become president" citood Sep 2016 #2
That would've worked better if she had kept select reporters in the loop HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #3
Understood. graegoyle Sep 2016 #5
You're arguing how to bury the incident, I want the truth about it. HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #6
Not bury it. graegoyle Sep 2016 #7
Spinning/framing is really about obfuscation HereSince1628 Sep 2016 #8
People will be more sympathetic with full blown honesty Puzzledtraveller Sep 2016 #9
It's abiut being sympathetic without asking for sympathy. graegoyle Sep 2016 #10

graegoyle

(532 posts)
4. Thanks.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:55 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2016, 01:18 AM - Edit history (2)

It just seems like such common sense. But the politicians are going to overthink it and become too defensive. Just make it a sound bite that the lame and lazy news channels can run.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. That would've worked better if she had kept select reporters in the loop
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:54 PM
Sep 2016

who could step up and say something about knowing the diagnoses and having some background on when x-rays and blood work were done.

You see, you get an x-ray in part to help with the dx and to answer the question "how extensive is it?", an answer that should have given Clinton and an inner circle a heads up on whether she should be going to the memorial ceremony.

At this point I haven't come across a statement about an x-ray and when and where it was done. When did she have time to do that last Friday?

graegoyle

(532 posts)
5. Understood.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:59 PM
Sep 2016

But those are details and easily brushed aside with big-picture strokes. As long as they don't get overly defensive and don't bring up Trump, this could easily be turned into a positive for her.

As far as keeping reporters 'in-the-loop': Not worth the effort. They would inevitably support Trumplethinskin's claims of her health problems and ignore that bit of malpractice that is his own "medical report".

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. You're arguing how to bury the incident, I want the truth about it.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

In the long run the truth will serve Clinton much better than a cover-up.

Not with her supporters, but with the remainder of the people she hopes to win-over there is a big question about how trustworthy she is.

People rather smarter in politics than me, such as David Axelrod, are saying pretty much the same thing. As he says the penchant for privacy isn't helping her overcome her serious negative.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
7. Not bury it.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:06 PM
Sep 2016

Reframe and turn it into a sympathetic positive by putting her in the shoes of any other person.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. Spinning/framing is really about obfuscation
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:17 PM
Sep 2016

Tell me when she went to a clinic last Friday, a place where she could have an x-ray, a physical exam and a consult with an MD?

She's much concerned about the cost of med. So, what did she pay for her meds? Pneumonia happens to people across the social spectrum but not everyone gets to deal with it the same way. There may be a pretty good hook into real people's experience in that, something that would also help make her 'one of us'.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
9. People will be more sympathetic with full blown honesty
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:32 PM
Sep 2016

If there is something more and she has a real illness then I think I would go public. Downplaying and covering up always comes back to haunt you.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
10. It's abiut being sympathetic without asking for sympathy.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 01:29 AM
Sep 2016

Read the post again. She should admit that she had pneumonia, but say that she didn't feel bad enough to stay home--which is, based on her going to the event, completely true.

Her allies should be the ones saying that she was being tough and going to pay her respects despite being sick, which just about anyone should sympathize with, having gone to work or school while feeling sick. The campaign has already promised to release more information so that is fine for "coming clean'. If the press and the orange one continue to bring up her health, they should just say she was sick, yes; everyone gets sick.

They should coordinate; this is politics.

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