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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:59 PM Sep 2016

Edward Snowden: ACLU and Amnesty seek presidential pardon

Source: BBC

Edward Snowden: ACLU and Amnesty seek presidential pardon

12 September 2016 US & Canada

Two of the most prominent human rights organisations in the United States are about to launch a campaign for the presidential pardon of Edward Snowden.

The American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International are ready to launch the "Pardon Snowden" campaign.

They are urging President Barack Obama to act before he leaves office in January 2017.

The launch this week coincides with the release of an Oliver Stone biopic about the former NSA contractor.

The campaign group has created a website, pardonsnowden.org, though its content remains behind a password-protected login. The campaign has also registered social media accounts in preparation for the launch.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37341804
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Edward Snowden: ACLU and Amnesty seek presidential pardon (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2016 OP
... Historic NY Sep 2016 #1
Those Russian winters must really be taking their toll Zorro Sep 2016 #2
Sure - after his trial and some prison time. hack89 Sep 2016 #3
To whom has Snowden granted amnesty? No one. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #4
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Sep 2016 #5
Screw you Eddie. Adrahil Sep 2016 #6
There are times ronnie624 Sep 2016 #7
. Egnever Sep 2016 #8
Presidential pardons issued before actual criminal convictions smell like cover-ups struggle4progress Sep 2016 #9
Jesus, based on the responses, it's almost like I'm at Free Republic EvolveOrConvolve Sep 2016 #10

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. To whom has Snowden granted amnesty? No one.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:49 PM
Sep 2016

If he allowed himself to be talked into or decided on his own to steal files from the NEW and deliver those files to other countries, I have no sympathy. He can give himself up to face trial and then accept the sentence.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. Screw you Eddie.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 09:05 PM
Sep 2016

You want to come home? Come home, and face the music. I'd support leniency if you owned up to those you did which were wrong.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
7. There are times
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:42 PM
Sep 2016

when you just have to wonder about the stability of those who tend toward authoritarianism.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
9. Presidential pardons issued before actual criminal convictions smell like cover-ups
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 11:21 PM
Sep 2016

We had, for example, this one:

I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974

Ford blocked prosecution of any crime whatsoever, that Nixon might have committed while President. It was vague and open-ended -- and it forestalled any further investigations

And we had this one:

I, George Bush, President of the United States of America, pursuant to my powers under Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, do hereby grant a full, complete, and unconditional pardon to Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert C. McFarlane, and Caspar W. Weinberger for all offenses charged or prosecuted by Independent Counsel Lawrence E. Walsh or other member of his office, or committed by these individuals and within the jurisdiction of that office

Bush blocked further prosecution of any crime whatsoever, that (say) Clarridge and/or Weinberger might have committed, subject only to the condition that the crime would have fallen within the scope of the office of Independent Counsel. It was vague and open-ended -- and it forestalled any further investigations

It is one thing to pardon a person for offenses where there is a conviction: it limits the pardon to specific proved acts. But pre-emptive pardons, which prevent prosecution -- and hence forestall all further investigation -- are an entirely different matter

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
10. Jesus, based on the responses, it's almost like I'm at Free Republic
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 09:25 PM
Sep 2016

What. The. Fuck. Has DU become? Because it sure isn't "Democratic", and the "Underground" has all vacated the building.

The authoritarianism is nauseating.

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