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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:25 PM Jun 2012

US Believes Russia Has Ship With Weapons, Troops En Route To Syria

By Barbara Starr, with reporting from Jill Dougherty

The United States says it is tracking a Russian military cargo ship as it makes its way to Syria carrying weapons, ammunition and a small number of Russian troops.

U.S. intelligence believes the Russians are sending the ship to help fortify its naval base in Syria as the situation in country continues to spiral out of control, Pentagon officials told CNN Friday.

The presence of the ship was first reporting by NBC News.

Classified U.S. imagery shows the ship, called the Nikolay Filchenkov, began loading in the port of Sevastapol on the Black Sea on June 7 and is headed for the Syrian port of Tartus, where the Russians have a naval facility. The port is vital for Russian naval access to the entire Middle East.



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US Believes Russia Has Ship With Weapons, Troops En Route To Syria (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2012 OP
So? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #1
So??? Cooley Hurd Jun 2012 #4
So? What should we do about it? Invade Russia? Invade Syria? Invade Grenada? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #5
No, you fight it out in Angola silly! WingDinger Jun 2012 #7
None of the above... Cooley Hurd Jun 2012 #8
How's "intense economic pressure" working on Iran, Cuba, or North Korea? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #10
So, fuck the Syrian opposition. Got it... Cooley Hurd Jun 2012 #11
So, fuck more wars that we can only lose. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #12
That is a foolish foolish stance....some wars are just.....throwing up your hands while others kill Joe the Revelator Jun 2012 #14
So, you are recommending war with Syria and think that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are "just"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #17
So far you've said you're against military and economic sanctions.....does that mean that you're Joe the Revelator Jun 2012 #18
I'm against getting involved in civil wars. Or, wars of any kind. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #21
"We" are not going to do anything beyond sanctions. joshcryer Jun 2012 #20
Tear up the war drums, NO NEW WARS! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #2
Same damn thing should go for Russia too. AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #25
We also believed Saddam attacked us on 9/11... KansDem Jun 2012 #3
If the imagery is "classified," how did they get hold of it? malthaussen Jun 2012 #6
News flash. The vessel depicted in the CNN propaganda piece is NOT a troop ship. Citizen Worker Jun 2012 #9
'and a small number of Russian troops.'... Most likely enough room on the ship for them. eom Purveyor Jun 2012 #13
They have a naval base nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #15
The US also believed Saddam had malaise Jun 2012 #16
US sends troops somewhere = bad. Russia sends troops somewhere = US is bad. joshcryer Jun 2012 #19
No use arguing with the "everything the West does is Teh Evul" people. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #22
If the Russians WEREN'T taking steps... tkmorris Jun 2012 #23
Russia wants to make sure its strategic interests are protected RZM Jun 2012 #24
I would be far more understanding...... AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #26
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
4. So???
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jun 2012

If the Russians make it to Syria, their weapons will be used to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians.

So? Really??

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
8. None of the above...
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jun 2012

Have you been watching the footage from Homs? From Haffa??

SOMETHING has to be done. How about INTENSE economic pressure on Syria, Russia and anyone allied with them?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
10. How's "intense economic pressure" working on Iran, Cuba, or North Korea?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:48 PM
Jun 2012

How many loads of military gear have we conveyed to Afghanistan? Israel? Saudi Arabia? and many, many, more, despotic and/or murderous regimes?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. So, fuck more wars that we can only lose.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jun 2012

Is the Syrian opposition not killing anyone?

“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy.” - Mohandas K. Gandhi

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
14. That is a foolish foolish stance....some wars are just.....throwing up your hands while others kill
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

innocent people is not a liberal value, at least not one that i want to be associated with.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
17. So, you are recommending war with Syria and think that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are "just"?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jun 2012

How about Vietnam? Our countless, but sorta/kinda proxy wars in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Europe?

Do you think arming the rebels in Syria is a good idea? Will they not kill people?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
18. So far you've said you're against military and economic sanctions.....does that mean that you're
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:18 PM
Jun 2012

fine with just watching these people die?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
21. I'm against getting involved in civil wars. Or, wars of any kind.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:39 PM
Jun 2012

So, how about we just bring all the people in Syria, who want to leave, here?

I have been around long enough to understand that our "help" usually ends in disaster for the people involved.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
20. "We" are not going to do anything beyond sanctions.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jun 2012

If Russia does a scorched earth policy the US will have to put sanctions on them. We're not there yet.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
25. Same damn thing should go for Russia too.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 06:37 PM
Jun 2012

This is absolutely criminal. Putin whines and complains about OUR wars but then turns around and helps a regime who are murdering people themselves? Fuck this shit. And this only serves to stoke the fires of WW3 fearmongering, too. It makes me wonder if there's a conspiracy of some sort underfoot.....

malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
6. If the imagery is "classified," how did they get hold of it?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jun 2012

And if they are publishing "classified" information, how is that not criminal?

-- Mal

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
23. If the Russians WEREN'T taking steps...
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jun 2012

to secure that base I'd think they were pretty stupid. They aren't.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
24. Russia wants to make sure its strategic interests are protected
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jun 2012

And that's understandable, I guess. I don't approve of arming Assad, of course. But I can see why they would want to make sure that their naval facility is prepared for any eventuality, up to and including collapse of the Assad government.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
26. I would be far more understanding......
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jun 2012

If that's all they were doing. Unfortunately, the criminal factions of Russia's government have seen to it that they will be arming the fascist Assad.
I do wonder, and worry, if perhaps they might end up arming the equally criminal Muslim Brotherhood once Assad's regime collapses.

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