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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:43 AM Sep 2016

Embarrassing To Be An American. We Are Looking Like Fools To The World.

Trump should be politically dead and way behind at this point. We are proving that we are a racist bigoted nation. The Democrats should be winning everywhere. The GOP has destroyed so much in this country and will do even more harm. They are just as poisonous as Trump as well.

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Embarrassing To Be An American. We Are Looking Like Fools To The World. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 OP
That stance didn't start with Trump. It started with GWB. DetlefK Sep 2016 #1
true. However We Look even Worse Now. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 #2
Nixon was a hateful, racist bigot. A nation built on slavery and genocide, what do you expect? Coyotl Sep 2016 #5
It's going backwards that looks bad muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #10
tRump boasts of it......wears it as a badge of honor...... a kennedy Sep 2016 #14
Exactly. People are supporting him BECAUSE he is a crass, loud-mouthed, racist, Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2016 #73
reagan was a racist, misogynist, and a homophobe unblock Sep 2016 #41
Not nearly as openly.... n/t whathehell Sep 2016 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author BSdetect Sep 2016 #49
Here's what Der Spiegel had to say about it... smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #55
I agree Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #65
Yep awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #63
Our media should hold the lions share of the blame! Dustlawyer Sep 2016 #3
Well said. ^ world wide wally Sep 2016 #21
There's Someone Else Who Shared That Narrative ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #43
So true. Duppers Sep 2016 #67
The shoe does fit but you do not have to wear it. gordianot Sep 2016 #4
Indeed colsohlibgal Sep 2016 #6
Too late Scarsdale Sep 2016 #23
I've begun packing up and disposing my belongings in preparation to sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #7
What will you do if Hillary wins in a landslide? Wednesdays Sep 2016 #9
What does that supposed to mean? ^ world wide wally Sep 2016 #22
I assume to try to retrieve the disposed belongings. SunSeeker Sep 2016 #35
Me too...hopefully, my house will sell, if needed, between Nov and Jan HipChick Sep 2016 #17
The November 8 election is a referendum on the state of the American people. Trust Buster Sep 2016 #8
Yes, it is, but it will not end there Cosmocat Sep 2016 #51
Be embarrassed if you want. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #11
The Republican party is a vast criminal enterprise vlyons Sep 2016 #12
Reaganomics matelize Sep 2016 #13
Welcome to DU LittleGirl Sep 2016 #25
America is a nation of dunces. nt LWolf Sep 2016 #15
Descendants of European Royalty bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #16
Please. Canada had Harold Ford. The U.K. had David Cameron. Israel has Netanyahu. randome Sep 2016 #18
Harold Ford? Newcanuck Sep 2016 #26
methinks... the devil Sep 2016 #34
Rob Ford. (Where the hell did I did 'Harold' from?) randome Sep 2016 #40
Harold Ford was a former congressman from Tennessee. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #52
don't forget corporate media barbtries Sep 2016 #19
We do indeed look like fools. BIG ones, this time, too DFW Sep 2016 #20
DFW, I like your posts LittleGirl Sep 2016 #27
Basel is not a bad place to be DFW Sep 2016 #36
Well, I remember your username LittleGirl Sep 2016 #59
Welcome lebkuchen Sep 2016 #39
Well, please don't get upset with me here.... DFW Sep 2016 #54
Apfelsaft schorle lebkuchen Sep 2016 #57
Das beste kommt aus der Schweiz DFW Sep 2016 #71
Trump is easily the scariest candidtae of my life Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #42
I concur lebkuchen Sep 2016 #58
The headline of the OP is exactly right. world wide wally Sep 2016 #24
You said it. nruthie Sep 2016 #28
This is what happens in a ,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2016 #29
Try being in the UK right now, from that point of view... LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #30
We Americans tend to be a bit myopic. Trump is a symptom of a global far right surge right now imho. stevenleser Sep 2016 #33
I feel we're at the Bush stage at the moment muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #53
Fortunately/Unfortunately the world has its share of Trumps. Putin, LePen, Diane James... stevenleser Sep 2016 #31
As was pointed out on one of the morning shows... Stellar Sep 2016 #32
His slogan has already been translated into what it really means: Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2016 #74
Brexit--we are not the only fools in the world! Evergreen Emerald Sep 2016 #37
Or bad company. LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #38
Brexit was brilliant. Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2016 #69
We Are Looking Like Fools To The World. AlbertCat Sep 2016 #44
Many people here cannot face their own shadows. ananda Sep 2016 #45
GWB, a near-miss with VP Palin, Rmoney . . . Trump. TonyPDX Sep 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author OnDoutside Sep 2016 #47
from an enlighted people Elmergantry Sep 2016 #48
Hope You Are Right. Interesting Observation. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2016 #50
He was elected twice by wide margins, no less. But some want to ignore that fact. nt MadDAsHell Sep 2016 #62
I'm a proud American...because Hillary is going to win. ileus Sep 2016 #56
der drumpfenfuhrer would never have gotten past the first round of the primaries in a sane world, niyad Sep 2016 #60
You've looked at the rest of the world, right? Half of the countries have bankrupted themselves... MadDAsHell Sep 2016 #61
Maybe Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #64
In my experience the world tends to 'get it' Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2016 #66
Well, Michelle Obama didn't embarrass us just now... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #68
The world, as you call it, has a good deal else to be embarrassed about. Marengo Sep 2016 #70
SEXIST NATION Skittles Sep 2016 #72
As if that hasn't been true since the far-right nuts took over the Repuke party. raven mad Sep 2016 #75
From tonight's "Mock the Week" - BBC show of jokes about the week's news. muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #76
I'm so glad I don't have any international travel planned. I'm just as flummoxed as they are. catbyte Sep 2016 #77
If you want a lift, go watch the presser with the Congressional Black Caucus today.... Hekate Sep 2016 #79
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. Nixon was a hateful, racist bigot. A nation built on slavery and genocide, what do you expect?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:14 AM
Sep 2016

The rest of the world understands more about the real history of the United States than its own citizens because people outside the USA are not as subjected to the propaganda and false patriotism.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
10. It's going backwards that looks bad
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:39 AM
Sep 2016

Yeah, Nixon was bad, but he tried to hide it - use the 'dog whistle'. Trump makes the bigotry the defining feature of his campaign.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
73. Exactly. People are supporting him BECAUSE he is a crass, loud-mouthed, racist,
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:48 PM
Sep 2016

bully. It's appalling to think this is the sort of person they want to elevate to the highest office in the land, to represent us to the world.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
41. reagan was a racist, misogynist, and a homophobe
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:13 AM
Sep 2016

and nixon was a horrible person in so many ways.

eisenhower might have been a decent guy and ford/rockefeller was a blip on the radar, but those types have long been drummed out of the modern republican party.

all that shrub contributed was the beginnings of the obviousness that trump has taken to its logical extreme.

but the bigotry and hate have a very long history in the republican party and in the country as a whole. that voting bloc has shifted parties but they remain strong enough to influence outcomes.

Response to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
65. I agree
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:31 PM
Sep 2016

though I also think that they have movements in their own country that are just as scary and racist. It's becoming more pervasive around the world.

My point is, I don't think we should waste time worrying about how other people see us. We need to work together with likeminded people throughout the world to make this a better place for all of us.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
63. Yep
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 01:52 PM
Sep 2016

it has gotten better for a bit (the rest of the world respects Obama a lot more the this country does), but tRump is reminding the world just how much idiocy this country is capable of cranking out.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Our media should hold the lions share of the blame!
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:59 AM
Sep 2016

They have put forth the false equivalence of the Party's and failed to discuss and analyse Republican policies to show how they favor the extremely wealthy and big corporations.

Small business owners are getting squeezed out by the big corporations and heavy tax burdens. They vote predominately Republican because they are told the Democrats want to raise their taxes even more. Democrats want to lower their tax burden while raising it on the billionaire class and large corporations. The media just reinforces their wrong headed belief that the Republicans have their backs.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
43. There's Someone Else Who Shared That Narrative
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:15 AM
Sep 2016

But if i mention the name, some people will get all upset.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
6. Indeed
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:18 AM
Sep 2016

GWB was a half bright dry drunk legacy but they have trumped that, no pun intended.

Again, HRC should win but ven so tens of millions will vote for that orange bozo reality flake. Their thinking is just so clueless based on low info and/or proganda info.

We think the US will be top dog or even here forever but look at history. Trump in office would speed our demise and we would be the laughing stock of the world for now.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. Too late
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:44 AM
Sep 2016

The world laughed, then cringed when GWB came on the scene. Then crazy eyes Bachmann, orange Boehner (who now openly works for the tobacco industry) Along came dingbat $arah Payme, with McCain defending her racist speeches. This is how we got to tRump and his plastic family.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. The November 8 election is a referendum on the state of the American people.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:34 AM
Sep 2016

I never believed that newspapers were shutting down all over the country because Americans are getting their news online. I believe that the average American no longer invests the time necessary to stay abreast of national and world affairs. I doubt most Americans could pick out Iraq and Afghanistan on an unlabeled map even though thousands of Americans have died there over the past 13 years. That is why Trump is a viable candidate IMO. We have turned into a reality television country. Americans believe that democracy IS a spectator sport.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
51. Yes, it is, but it will not end there
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:28 AM
Sep 2016

I have been saying that since it was clear to me that Trump was going to win the R nomination - late last year.

But, here is the really sad fact.

If by the grace of god this country is not stupid enough to elect Trump, it will change nothing. The R party and its whore media will do what they have done the last four years, work against the country in the name of defeating the democrat. NOTHING will get done, the country will suffer how it does through the repubican's petulant sedition, the media will do its part to spin the "they both are the same" narrative and the feckless dumb asses in this country will NOT hold republican's responsible.

It will only be stalling, the repubicans won't change one bit, and the country will continue to indulge them.

I am voting and supporting Hillary, and I absolutely speak against the negative frames against her. She is a too tight with big money but otherwise would be a fine POTUS, as BHO has been.

But, there is a part of me, as truly as horrific it would be, that wants to throw my hands up and see Trump win.

Not that it will be some great awakening, not that republicans change, but that the non full on republicans will have to face their responsibility for him and JUST MAYBE this country will hold them responsible for their jackassery.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
12. The Republican party is a vast criminal enterprise
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:43 AM
Sep 2016

I keep posting this perspective everywhere I can. The republican party is motivated mostly by the greedy accumulation of wealth at any cost. Fueling racism and bigotry is just one of many ways they get votes. Buying politicians and suppressing the vote is another.

matelize

(19 posts)
13. Reaganomics
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:44 AM
Sep 2016

I think the beginning of the end started with Reagan when he, and the architect Jack Kemp, pushed the economic policy of trickle down. The media is controlled by corporations and they only care about the bottom line , so here we are trapped in this nightmare of a mentally unstable fool with no knowledge or even any desire to gain knowledge on the precipice of becoming President. The World indeed is looking at us as fools.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
25. Welcome to DU
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:45 AM
Sep 2016

I agree completely, it's slowly dissolved into this mess starting with Nixon and cemented with Reagan.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
16. Descendants of European Royalty
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:09 AM
Sep 2016

have viewed American Democracy with a snicker for centuries

Probably some would like to return to power, some want to profit,
Trump's their guy

There is the film "Kings of Kallstadt" and some others that hint
of an Eastern European Hungarian Empire connection, as well
as some tracing back to the 700s

Political elites tolerate democracy when they are elected

When out of power, it's something to be controlled so they can
regain power

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Please. Canada had Harold Ford. The U.K. had David Cameron. Israel has Netanyahu.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:14 AM
Sep 2016

America's exceptionalism does not extend to fools. They are evenly dispersed across the planet.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

Newcanuck

(47 posts)
26. Harold Ford?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:46 AM
Sep 2016

Although my name says I'm a Newcanuck, I've now been here 20 years but I don't think I've ever heard of this Harold Ford, even googling the name. Now, if you'd said Stephen Harper, yes, we were unfortunate enough to have him, but I like to believe we've recovered from that with our shiny new PM. I would offer my apologies for the Harper years but obviously, I never voted for him.

the devil

(42 posts)
34. methinks...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:06 AM
Sep 2016

The person referred to was Rob Ford, the late, former mayor of Toronto. Ford was a dunce for a short time, but he did get a lot done when he was a city councillor. His constituents loved him because he took the time to listen to their problems and then made the time to solve them.

Trump only does one thing: puff up his already bloated ego. He won't make anything great except his own self-image.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
40. Rob Ford. (Where the hell did I did 'Harold' from?)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:12 AM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
52. Harold Ford was a former congressman from Tennessee.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:37 AM
Sep 2016

He was of biracial ancestry and he was considered at one time to be an up and coming leader in the Democratic Party. He was strongly disliked by progressives because of his DLC connections and his conservative views. If I remember correctly, he was involved in some scandal -- I think a sex scandal -- and he lost his seat in the House. Last I heard, he was working for the Council on Foreign Relations and some RW think tank.

DFW

(54,407 posts)
20. We do indeed look like fools. BIG ones, this time, too
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:27 AM
Sep 2016

Not because the Republicans have nominated a dangerous ignorant to high office. They do that all time. Joni Ernst, Louie Gohmert, e.g. But this time, they have nominated a very dangerous and thoroughly ignorant egomaniac to the highest office in the land. The world knows that Republicans sometimes put up guys like that, but usually only for primary entertainment distraction. This time, their distraction became the main attraction. The world asks how can a party that nominated Dwight Eisenhower for the presidency can, 64 years later, nominate Donald Trump and expect to be taken seriously around the world. It freaks them out that Trump is taken seriously in the USA by any sighted person who doesn't need help being led to a bathroom.

I'm in Stuttgart for my job today. From the main train station, I took a taxi to my hotel. I correctly guessed that the driver was a Pakistani. I greeted him in my 2 words of Punjabi. He smiled, complimented me on my accent and asked how often I had been in Pakistan. I explained that I had never been in Pakistan or anywhere near it. I said I was from the USA and met lots of Pakistanis living there, so it wasn't a difficult guess. Big smile. One less Muslim Pakistani that will be inclined to hate us without ever having met an American.

We've had weak and useless Republican candidates before, but since Eisenhower 64 years ago, their caliber has gone way downhill. Even France's useless Hollande, a bureaucrat dba as "socialiste," isn't down at Trump's level. But look at the constituency that chose Trump. Ask any typical Republican to even find Pakistan on a map, and I'll bet he or she won't even know on which continent to look. Then ask them how important might Pakistan be, anyway? Top fifty countries in population? Top forty? Top thirty, Top twenty? Top ten? Top ten would be correct, but my guess that the percentage of Republicans who know that (or that they possess nuclear arms) is around the same percentage who think Ben Carson still has a chance to beat Hillary as a write-in.







LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
27. DFW, I like your posts
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:52 AM
Sep 2016

and used to live near Stuttgart. I'm in Basel now and I try not to talk politics with anyone but it comes up every single time I meet an English speaker. It usually goes something like, what do you think of this Trump guy? Ugh. I have to be careful how I answer too because there are many here from the UK that voted brexit because of the immigrants. It's tough. I voted for Bernie in the Dems Abroad primary and will vote for Hillary as soon as I get my ballot. Have a nice weekend.

DFW

(54,407 posts)
36. Basel is not a bad place to be
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:08 AM
Sep 2016

With the mess Germany is fighting a battle NOT to become, Switzerland may be the oasis of refuge in Central Europe. It's even worth learning Schwyzerdüütsch to live there.

I frankly don't run into many English-speaking people in the course of my work. Indeed, I got my job because I speak 8 languages that are NOT English, so I'm expected to spend my work time speaking something else. The only Trump supporter I ever met here was a Frenchman who was half-Israeli, and who was convinced Trump would be better for Israel than Hillary because he hates Muslims. In other words, the same sort of infantile, simplistic thinking that got Trump nominated in the first place.

I'm only semi-active with the Dems abroad, as they always seem to meet when I can't (Thursday evenings, for crying out loud! I still have a day--as in 23 hour--job, and in a different country practically every day!). It was due to that connection, though, that I got the invite to spend an hour with Obama 4 years ago, so I guess I should at least try to spare them a little more time.

I don't know what it could be about my posts that you like, but thanks for the kind words!!

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
59. Well, I remember your username
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016

so that's why I remember that you lived in Germany. No, not interested in learning this version of German either. We're planning our escape from this outrageously priced country (Italy) so that we can save for our retirement in a decade or so. In fact, we're going to dinner in Germany tonight so we can get a decent priced meal with portions that satisfy my husband, ha. We want to move to Italy next.

I can't chat right now. Have a great weekend. Cheers! Ciao.

lebkuchen

(10,716 posts)
39. Welcome
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:10 AM
Sep 2016

Head to tourist information near the train station and ask if any besens are open either in the city or Ober/Unterturkheim, which you can take the Sbahn to....if you drink wine.

DFW

(54,407 posts)
54. Well, please don't get upset with me here....
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:50 AM
Sep 2016

I don't drink wine, or beer, or any alcohol at all. I AM, however a great fan of Bratkartoffeln!

(Eine kleine Sünde hat doch jeder, oder?)

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
42. Trump is easily the scariest candidtae of my life
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:13 AM
Sep 2016

I could see him turning into a fascist dictator in office so easily. I'm literally losing hours of sleep over this fucking election. This country is unbelievable.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
24. The headline of the OP is exactly right.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:44 AM
Sep 2016

We ARE the face-Palm of the world even right now.
If we actually elect this idiot, we will be the enemy of the world.
The upside? The deplorable will get to express their racism openly and the wealthy will get more tax breaks a la GW Bush. There is no upside beyond that.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
29. This is what happens in a ,,,,
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:02 AM
Sep 2016

Democracy when more people know who on this season's "Dancing with the Stars" than who is running for President.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
30. Try being in the UK right now, from that point of view...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:04 AM
Sep 2016

Actually Trump's probably worse than anyone here, to be fair. But what's so upsetting is that we'd made so much progress in the last 40 or 50 years, and now seem prepared to throw it all away, because of a government that puts party unity ahead of country, a former prime minister who gambled our country's future and lost, a Foreign Secretary who is a self-seeking buffoon, an Opposition that devotes most of its energies to fighting one another, and a large number of citizens brainwashed by the toxic tabloids.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
33. We Americans tend to be a bit myopic. Trump is a symptom of a global far right surge right now imho.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:06 AM
Sep 2016

Its going to be short lived but ugly, again IMHO.

Then we all need to figure out how to see the signs and prevent it going forward.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
53. I feel we're at the Bush stage at the moment
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:40 AM
Sep 2016

Embarrassing elections and a referendum, but not in the Trump league of "considering electing a egomaniacal bigoted con man" yet. No one has proposed Katie Hopkins as the leader of a party yet.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
31. Fortunately/Unfortunately the world has its share of Trumps. Putin, LePen, Diane James...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:04 AM
Sep 2016

Nikolaos Michaloliakos, Heinz-Christian Strache, Berlusconi, etc.

There are lots of them. And the far right is surging globally unfortunately.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
32. As was pointed out on one of the morning shows...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:05 AM
Sep 2016

"Make America Great Again" is the same as 'I want my country back'. So they are afraid because they woke up one day and saw this Black man in the White House, and it scared the heck out of them.. that they fear losing hold of all that was there's because of their privileged position in this country, and what once worked, they've given up on it.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
74. His slogan has already been translated into what it really means:
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:57 PM
Sep 2016

"Make America White Again."

Divide and conquer is a very successful strategy. The RW are masters.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
37. Brexit--we are not the only fools in the world!
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:08 AM
Sep 2016

I agree it is embarrassing. But, we are not the only fools in the world. We are in good company.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
45. Many people here cannot face their own shadows.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:15 AM
Sep 2016

This is Jungian but I think it works.

We see so much projection coming from the rightwing.

We see so much ugly, shadow bully behavior also; and
this has traction because people don't want to be on the
receiving end of that.

Dems tend to cave in to it also. I mean, for one example
among many, how did Tom Delay's thugs get away with
stopping the vote recount in Dade County?

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
46. GWB, a near-miss with VP Palin, Rmoney . . . Trump.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:17 AM
Sep 2016

I suppose we really needed to hit rock bottom, once and for all. No candidate could be worse than Trump.

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
56. I'm a proud American...because Hillary is going to win.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:11 AM
Sep 2016

And unlike Barack, their fears of punishment will come true with Hillary because she will be effective at combating their BS. The deplorables will be neutered once and for all.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
60. der drumpfenfuhrer would never have gotten past the first round of the primaries in a sane world,
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 01:27 PM
Sep 2016

let alone be the nominee of a major party.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
61. You've looked at the rest of the world, right? Half of the countries have bankrupted themselves...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 01:48 PM
Sep 2016

...another half are enduring relentless ISIS-inspired violence because they can't get their migration programs in order.

We're not perfect, but embarrassed? I don't think so. This is how democracy works. And we'll show Trump that in November.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
64. Maybe
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:29 PM
Sep 2016

But with Brexit, the rise of Neo-Naziism in some parts of Europe, I don't think that we are alone.

And places like North Korea and Russia would totally respect us with Trump in charge. There's always that.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
66. In my experience the world tends to 'get it'
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:03 PM
Sep 2016

I spent a lot of time in France during the worst of the Bush regime and I had some fairly tense encounters with Europeans, until I said the word "California" and that melted every situation.

They look at the backwards parts of the US the same way they look at the backwards parts of Europe, either with a cringe or chuckle.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
68. Well, Michelle Obama didn't embarrass us just now...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:30 PM
Sep 2016

good speech. Personal, rousing for the crowd, factual. She's a natural.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
75. As if that hasn't been true since the far-right nuts took over the Repuke party.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:06 PM
Sep 2016

I try to tell all my non-US friends that I'll apologize later, when sanity is regained.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
76. From tonight's "Mock the Week" - BBC show of jokes about the week's news.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:08 PM
Sep 2016

One of the comedians, Ed Byrne, started getting serious. "Hillary ill - even Hillary dead - would be a better president than Trump. The crud I clean out of my shower drain would be more suitable as president". Hugh audience applause, rather than laughter.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
79. If you want a lift, go watch the presser with the Congressional Black Caucus today....
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:25 PM
Sep 2016

No kidding, they made me proud to be a fellow American.

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