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Michelle Obama stepping up to the mike now on MSNBC... (Original Post) Wounded Bear Sep 2016 OP
And on CNN and streaming on CSPAN here.... DesertRat Sep 2016 #1
I truly, truly love her ... there will never be another First Lady like her! Greywing Sep 2016 #2
There it is - KABOOM in Don the Con's face malaise Sep 2016 #6
Notice the amount of young folks in the crowd.. HipChick Sep 2016 #15
Me and Barack malaise Sep 2016 #3
And I mangle my 10 year old if he says "Me and Jim went...." ;) OnDoutside Sep 2016 #16
Yep grammar does matter but it too can promote bias. malaise Sep 2016 #17
In fairness I don't believe people think about putting 'she' last, deliberately. I wonder is it the OnDoutside Sep 2016 #18
Not at all - they are socialized to say it malaise Sep 2016 #19
Anyone have a video link? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #4
Here DesertRat Sep 2016 #5
Damn, she's good. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #8
Yep... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #9
Yes, she is! DesertRat Sep 2016 #10
"... still to this day..." amen and amen !!! uponit7771 Sep 2016 #14
POW! She hits with a left, then a right ... Greywing Sep 2016 #7
“Being president isn’t anything like reality TV.” DesertRat Sep 2016 #11
She was excellent malaise Sep 2016 #12
And it's "Excruciatingly clear" that only Clinton is qualified for the job DesertRat Sep 2016 #13

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
2. I truly, truly love her ... there will never be another First Lady like her!
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Sep 2016

Get ready for a great speech!

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
15. Notice the amount of young folks in the crowd..
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:14 PM
Sep 2016

the lines wrapped around several building to get in

malaise

(269,054 posts)
17. Yep grammar does matter but it too can promote bias.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:12 PM
Sep 2016

No question she used the objective pronoun and not the nominative , but how do we get around that.
I used to correct female students who and said 'he and she' rather than 'she and he'. Why do you always put yourself last I would ask. The guys never do that.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
18. In fairness I don't believe people think about putting 'she' last, deliberately. I wonder is it the
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:38 PM
Sep 2016

path of least resistance, in that 'he and she' flows better compared to 'she and he' ? I would say 'my wife and I' rather than 'I and my wife' for no other probable reason than it is more fluent to me.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
19. Not at all - they are socialized to say it
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

Lots of documents and more than a few books don't include women as part of society. It flows because we're accustomed to it, but in lecture rooms where girls out number boys 7:3 it's just plain wrong to ignore the majority. i say hubby and I as well.

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