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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublican Andy Martin started birtherism, not Hillary or her supporters.
The MSM has finally gotten around to calling out Trump's lie that Hillary started birtherism. But they tend to dispute Trump's lie by repeating another lie: that "diehard Clinton supporters" started the birtherism whisper campaign in 2008.
As Chris Hayes told Trump campaign strategist A.J. Delgado on Monday when she repeated the lie that Hillary started the birther movement in 2008, in fact it was a man named Andy Martin, a Republican (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin), who started the birtherism campaign against Obama -- in 2004. Chris Hayes wrote about it in The Nation in 2007. https://www.thenation.com/article/new-right-wing-smear-machine/
And as reported by the NY Times in 2008:
Its general outlines have turned up in a host of works that have expounded falsely on Mr. Obamas heritage or supposed attempts to conceal it, including Obama Nation, the widely discredited best seller about Mr. Obama by Jerome R. Corsi. Mr. Corsi opens the book with a quote from Mr. Martin.
What hes generating gets picked up in other places, said Danielle Allen, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., who has investigated the e-mail campaigns circulation and origins, and its an example of how the Internet has given power to sources we would have never taken seriously at another point in time.
Ms. Allen said Mr. Martins original work found amplification in 2006, when a man named Ted Sampley wrote an article painting Mr. Obama as a secret practitioner of Islam. Quoting liberally from Mr. Martin, the article circulated on the Internet, and its contents eventually found their way into various e-mail messages, particularly an added claim that Mr. Obama had attended Jakartas Muslim Wahhabi schools. Wahhabism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging jihad on the rest of the world.
And while Hillary explicitly told her supporters and campaign staff not to repeat the rumor (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/16/trump-proves-clinton-not-birther.html), this is what Andy Martin did in 2008:
Yallow
(1,926 posts)Is this it?
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)about Obama being a Muslim, not birtherism. I have a link I got from thefogbow.com, where the greatest expertise on birtherism on the net resides.
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2011/06/secret-origin-of-birthers.html
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)But Andy Martin was out there questioning Obamas "hetitage"since 2004, and feeding it directly to Free Republic, as the cited OP articles document.
As Chris Hayes wrote about Martin in 2007:
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)used as a source in his anti-Obama election eve special report in 2008, then was left a sputtering mess when Robert Gibbs called him out for including an anti-semite and conspiracy loon in a news segment
http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/10/08/journalist-sean-hannity-gives-bogus-defense-for/145546
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Trump has momentum and better PR. They have to come to terms that Robby Mook is not cutting it. And that she needs to appeal to the white angry males' women. Somebody has to snap them out if it. And women know how to do that.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)If you say so.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)What is your point and what does it have to do with the OP?
Seems to me Trump's birtherism "press conference" yesterday backfired badly. For the first time, the media are using the "L" word (lie) with regard to Trump. Major Garrett went on a rant about how Trump rick rolled the media...Major Garrett of all people! Why do you want us to "move on" from that?
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)of the despicably deplorable Orly Taitz to the birther cause.
Orly herself is just fine with Trump's disavowment because she believes it is purely for purposes of getting elected and not sincere. That is likely the reaction of all pro-Trump birthers.
See, e.g.: Birther Orly Taitz Is Okay With Donald Trump Dropping Birtherism To Win The Election http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-orly-taitz_us_57dc4a5ae4b08cb14095dd06
malaise
(269,049 posts)Don the Con will never be president - and he will disappear on election night without as much as a concession.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)61 posted on 2004-08-17, 5:14:07 AM by JustPiper (~ It can be good news when there is no terror threat to report ~)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1773468/posts?page=69#69
I want to see OB's BC.
69 posted on 2007-01-25, 11:40:26 AM by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
Andy Martin made a big fuss in 2004 to see Obama's birth certificate to see if it stated he was Muslim.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)But thanks for the links to the FR, not that I will ever give that cesspool the clicks. Documentation uncovered by Chris Hayes indicates Martin was the earliest known birther, and Martins "press release" to FR in August 2004 spread that conspiracy theory to the FR fever swamp, as your FR links demonstrate.