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Why do our universities and government need to be run like a business (Original Post) shcrane71 Jun 2012 OP
This is promulgated by fascists. Plain and simple Scootaloo Jun 2012 #1
All services need to be run by the government Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #2
No profit, no CEO's. RC Jun 2012 #3
What vital services that you depend on do you want Boehner, Gringrich hack89 Jun 2012 #6
Who? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #12
So well after I am dead and gone? Good. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #17
Nah, that doesn't work either Confusious Jun 2012 #13
Why should we run banks like businesses? RoccoR5955 Jun 2012 #4
They wouldn't have to if they didn't collect tuiton or pay salaries (or taxes and expenditures) FarCenter Jun 2012 #5
The end result is bloated administrations and weakened academics ladym55 Jun 2012 #7
+1 . . . right on. nt MrTwister Jun 2012 #8
Yep. woo me with science Jun 2012 #9
Businesses exist to make a profit, but government & education emsimon33 Jun 2012 #10
Actually, there is a very large amount of for-profit education FarCenter Jun 2012 #11
There's a line between education and training Kennah Jun 2012 #15
Programming language X: Level 1 is an introductory college course FarCenter Jun 2012 #16
Yes and No Kennah Jun 2012 #19
Don't forget medical Confusious Jun 2012 #14
k and BIG R! LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #18
Because this society is capitalist, not democratic. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #20
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. This is promulgated by fascists. Plain and simple
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jun 2012

Every time you hear someone say this, it's either because they are a fascist, or becuase they've been deluded by one. It is a rallying cry to completely destroy all semblance of Democracy in this nation.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. No profit, no CEO's.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jun 2012

No board of Directors, no stock holders.

Just look at the savings by having government services do it over private enterprise.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. What vital services that you depend on do you want Boehner, Gringrich
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jun 2012

Delay, Cheney, Bush, etc to be running?

Lets not forget that Republicans win elections too.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
13. Nah, that doesn't work either
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:19 AM
Jun 2012

Look at the Soviet Union as an example.

Now if you wanted to say something like all businesses should be non-profit, or just businesses like medical and universities should be non-profit (anything that people need to live healthy lives), then I would agree.

Government does some things well, the "regulated" market others. Mixing them is just a recipe for another disaster.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. Why should we run banks like businesses?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:54 PM
Jun 2012

They failed, and WE THE PEOPLE bailed them out, so why leave those that failed in charge, and others in these banks employed, so that they can swindle more money from us?
We have to take our rightful possession of these institutions, and make them cooperatives, after we fire ALL management there. Make them responsible to WE THE PEOPLE who bailed them out, and make sure that they can never commit that crime again!

Capitalism has therefore failed.

That's what I say when one of these knuckle-draggers tells me that (s)he thinks that the Commons should be run like a business.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. They wouldn't have to if they didn't collect tuiton or pay salaries (or taxes and expenditures)
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jun 2012

The Greek government is getting close.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
7. The end result is bloated administrations and weakened academics
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jun 2012

Education is NOT business, and given what chuckleheads many of the "great business minds" are (hello, Donald Trump!), they really should not be engaged in deciding education.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. Yep.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jun 2012

This is exactly the right question to be asking, in so many areas of our lives. It's time to start thinking beyond the corporate propaganda that we are steeped in from birth. Maybe, just maybe, there are more important and meaningful goals to structure a society around than profit.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
10. Businesses exist to make a profit, but government & education
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jun 2012

(unless you are a for-profit post-secondary institution) do NOT exist to make a profit.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
11. Actually, there is a very large amount of for-profit education
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jun 2012

There are lots of courses offered in IT, especially those to prepare students to take certification tests on Microsoft, Cisco and other systems. There are courses on IT security offered to prepare for security cert tests. Most business to business sales of any technological systems include training options for the buyer's staff provided by the seller's training organization. There are any number of managerial and other administrative specialty development courses.

Kennah

(14,337 posts)
15. There's a line between education and training
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jun 2012

English lit is education

Programming language X: Level 1 is training

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
16. Programming language X: Level 1 is an introductory college course
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:15 PM
Jun 2012

Education in the niceties of transactional processing in databases geographically distributed over multiple data centers for disaster recovery and business continuity purposes is the kind of education that goes on in a corporate setting.

They expect you to know programming language X: level 1 before you are hired.

As for English Lit? Once you are out of college, nobody cares.

Kennah

(14,337 posts)
19. Yes and No
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:21 AM
Jun 2012

There are various programs that run the gamut. Community colleges offering certificate programs, training mills, online training, and dedicated training such as .NET or Java curriculum. Many of these are very training centric without any real educational merit.

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