and definitely visible at 1:22. Gunshots were at 1:08. This would have been a 9 to 14 second window to place a throw down.

You are right about him obscuring the gun going forward though. Between his foot placement and shadow you don't see the object again.

and then he purposely looks down for it and steps back and puts his left foot in front of it, blocking it from the camera's view.

As far as I'm concerned that's our main suspect right there.

He planted that gun and he thought she might of seen the plant or had it on video and tried to fucking hide it with his foot.

NOT a glove.

which were actually dropped by the black officer.

That's not the story. The real story is what the fucking cop in red is doing.

If the gun is right under you why would you stand practically on top of evidence if you didn't plant it?

He's hiding the plant behind his left foot!!! And she got it on video!

That's the story!

a hard object dropped to the pavement.

I see the glove going down and that doesn't bounce and that's long after the cop in red's left foot is in the position it will stay for the rest of the video.

hard object (gun??? for sure not soft like a glove) drops and seems to semi-bounce like a metal object might. Imagine you drop a gun muzzle, or handle onto the pavement. It would semi-bounce then fall to one side. That's what I see.

I also stipulate... it might NOT be a gun. But, clearly not a light object.

As discussed on another DU thread? Is the purpose to explain lack of fingerprint evidence? Gloves in September seems strange.

to put on gloves before touching someone especially if that person is bleeding.

If not all of the publicized shootings gloves didn't seem to be a factor in the videos.

Can you point to an example where someone is shot, laying on the ground, and responders are or are not wearing rubber gloves?

I don't think there are two many crime scene investigations where people don't wear gloves.

Here is a responder to the Michael Brown shooting:



Notice the shade of purple of the guy's hand who is touching the body?

Those are purple nitrile gloves.

The nitrile ones tend to come in purple, blue or black, and the latex ones are light tan. The latex ones aren't as favored as they used to be, since some people have latex allergies.

But they are pretty common.

Of gloves being discussed and being an issue in these shootings. I do understand now the necessity of police wearing gloves.

Being such an issue before. Thank you I do understand the need for them to wear gloves. Blue hand syndrome indeed

Honestly, one of my favorite shop things for working on my bike or my car are those purple nitrile gloves. If you get a good fit, the "feel" is really nice, the grip is good, and you don't have to mess around with GoJo or brushing under your nails later.

The powderless ones (which don't have cornstarch or talc on the inside for slipping them on) are preferred for... not contaminating whatever with powder, but if your hands are at all sweaty, then you can easily rip them putting them on. Also, sometimes you get a bad one where a finger is welded shut.

I have no idea what is going on in this video, and it certainly bears a lot of looking at, but I really can't imagine too many cops who are going to search a bleeding person and/or body without putting on gloves and making sure they don't have rips or holes.

Even if it's a white guy:

and intentionally keeps his left leg/foot in place.

he thought he was caught in the middle of the plant by the wife and she also tells him she's recording so he doesn't know whether to move and allow the gun to be seen and possibly have the plant exposed or just to act like it was the victim's gun.

it's hard to do on a computer without enhancement tools, but it does look like there is a gun behind the officer in the red shirt just before he moves to the back to protect it; after that point he doesn't move his left leg, and supposedly that's what is done to protect evidence.


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Just the existence of guns in modern society kills African-Americans

None of us are happy about trigger happy cops, but gun culture is killing black people.

From the threat of open carry, which is all about keeping 'them' in their place. To the used gun market, which is about arming... just enough of 'them.'

Gun culture has a narrative. And it is not about self-defense, or hunting, or sport shooting.

Just the possibility of a gun will kill a black person. Guns are the new sheets.

Because when you have someone that just had a gun you don't know if they are still capable of reaching for it. A first move for safety would be step on it, then scoot it away out of easy reach of your suspect.

Crime scene safety 101. Don't leave a gun where a suspect, even an injured one, can grab it.

The conspiracy theory that in a few short seconds the officer produced a "throw down" gun (from where, uniforms are pretty full and there is nowhere to hide it) and planted it instantly without superb coordination and complete approval from everyone else there is absurd, and shows the lengths of cognitive dissonance some people will go to in order to not risk exposure to the idea that maybe the dude had a gun.

Don't let your lying eyes deceive you. We can see exactly what the police are up to in this video. Your attempt to defend them is admirable, but I'll believe what I see

just so that they can plant them if necessary to cover their asses?

if they've confiscated it illegally

I'm amazed at how certain people are of this incendiary accusation, when I can't even see what they're talking about.

Unfortunately, nothing definitive.

The black object on the ground near the black officer are gloves? I thought it was the gun.

anything that people are seeing. I will await the investigation report (and probably the DOJ report).

by the cop in red. Bastard.

say that the victim's DNA and fingerprints were found on the gun.

I'm not sure if the source is reliable or if the report is true.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4121855-report-loaded-gun-found-nc-had-fingerprints-matching-victim-family-releases-video