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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWAPO: Dear readers: Please stop calling us ‘the media.’ There is no such thing.
As I understand your use of this term, the media is essentially shorthand for anything you read, saw or heard today that you disagreed with or didnt like. At any given moment, the media is biased against your candidate, your issue, your very way of life.
But, you know, the media isnt really doing that. Some article, some news report, some guy spouting off on a CNN panel or at CrankyCrackpot.com might be. But none of those things singularly are really the media.
Fact is, there really is no such thing as the media. Its an invention, a tool, an all-purpose smear by people who cant be bothered to make distinctions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/dear-readers-please-stop-calling-us-the-media-there-is-no-such-thing/2016/09/23/37972a32-7932-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Now you know how we feel.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Sums it up well
for a precise definition
irisblue
(32,975 posts)Retrograde
(10,136 posts)doc03
(35,338 posts)I would love a definition of journalist now, versus back in the days of Edward R. Murrow.
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Is that specific enough?
Shandris
(3,447 posts)"And we're telling you that because we totally don't want you to get laughed at. I mean seriously, we NEVER run articles that rely primarily on namecalling, mockery, or other forms of lowbrow childishness. It really has NOTHING to do with us being a major media organization that realizes that everyone ELSE has realized that the jig is up, which is totally why we're responding as a big name that only has any meaning or significance because it is the media.
Sure thing, guys.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I know this is snark, but "the media" is the only private business mentioned in the Constitution (called The Press at the time).
The Media was given special protection and privileges in the Constitution because a well informed Electorate (We the people) are necessary for us to exist and pick our representation.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,318 posts)You've just told us you have nothing to write about. Goodbye.
phallon
(260 posts)underpants
(182,806 posts)Everyone knows what "the media" means.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)In that there is no single media. The media is made up of lots of individual outfits big and small.
.99center
(1,237 posts)"Some of these stories too many were not given prominence and, in the case of newspapers, didnt make the front page. But it wasnt impossible for skeptics of the war to connect the dots."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-iraq-journalists-didnt-fail-they-just-didnt-succeed/2013/03/22/0ca6cee6-9186-11e2-9abd-e4c5c9dc5e90_story.html?utm_term=.6e7444204faf
They didn't make it impossible for skeptics of the war to connect the dots, they just made sure that average Joe never heard from those skeptics.
Here's another Great® opinion piece from this journalist.
"Trump gets way more TV news time than Clinton. So what?"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-gets-way-more-tv-news-time-than-clinton-so-what/2016/09/21/719d1bac-7ea9-11e6-8d0c-fb6c00c90481_story.html
Two days later he writes this garbage, the responses must of got under his skin.
Cerridwen
(13,258 posts)How about: stenographers, propagandists, 5th column, manufacturers of disinformation, dispensers of rumor and innuendo, gossip columnists, writers who would make Hedda Hopper and/or Louella Parsons blush, an institution envied by wanna be dictators, competition for the national enquirer and/or its foreign cousin; the daily mail...
for a start.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)public?
"Media" sounds appropriate to me
angrychair
(8,699 posts)What a tone deaf thing to say.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)So our choices are extremely limited, and we didn't make this shit up!
Example: AP writes a story....and where does it end up? Every fucking where.....
I called that a conglomerate media monopoly which gives us the "illusion" of having many choices
as to where we get our news, when we really have very few choices.
It's really not that complicated WAPO guy!
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)The author of that tripe featured by the OP, thinks he knows something. I wonder if he honestly believes the media establishment doesn't frame the political narrative in the US.
1. "The major media-particularly, the elite media that set the agenda that others generally follow-are corporations selling privileged audiences to other businesses. It would hardly come as a surprise if the picture of the world they present were to reflect the perspectives and interests of the sellers, the buyers, and the product. Concentration of ownership of the media is high and increasing. Furthermore, those who occupy managerial positions in the media, or gain status within them as commentators, belong to the same privileged elites, and might be expected to share the perceptions, aspirations, and attitudes of their associates, reflecting their own class interests as well. Journalists entering the system are unlikely to make their way unless they conform to these ideological pressures, generally by internalizing the values; it is not easy to say one thing and believe another, and those who fail to conform will tend to be weeded out by familiar mechanisms."
2. If the media were honest, they would say, Look, here are the interests we represent and this is the framework within which we look at things. This is our set of beliefs and commitments. Thats what they would say, very much as their critics say. For example, I dont try to hide my commitments, and the Washington Post and New York Times shouldnt do it either. However, they must do it, because this mask of balance and objectivity is a crucial part of the propaganda function. In fact, they actually go beyond that. They try to present themselves as adversarial to power, as subversive, digging away at powerful institutions and undermining them. The academic profession plays along with this game.
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9. "You dont have any other society where the educated classes are so effectively indoctrinated and controlled by a subtle propaganda system a private system including media, intellectual opinion forming magazines and the participation of the most highly educated sections of the population. Such people ought to be referred to as Commissars for that is what their essential function is to set up and maintain a system of doctrines and beliefs which will undermine independent thought and prevent a proper understanding and analysis of national and global institutions, issues, and policies."
10. Citizens of the democratic societies should undertake a course of intellectual self defense to protect themselves from manipulation and control, and to lay the basis for meaningful democracy.
http://www.alternet.org/media/10-brilliant-quotes-noam-chomsky-how-media-really-operates-america
Nobody explains it like Noam Chomsky.
DFW
(54,384 posts)It is incredibly cumbersome to always have to say "the mostly Republican-controlled print and broadcasting apparatus for disseminating reporting and commentary, and mostly a right-wing slanted mixture of the two."
It is SOOOOOOOOO much easier to just say "the media." We all know the meaning is the same in either case.
librechik
(30,674 posts)whores. I'll just call you that from now on, k?
still_one
(92,190 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Pot, meet Kettle!
tandem5
(2,072 posts)kentuck
(111,097 posts)I just happen to trust written words more than I do spoken words.
Because there is more thought and introspection in written words.