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Four dead in shooting at Cascade Mall in Burlington, WA (north of Seattle) (Original Post) LonePirate Sep 2016 OP
Damn it. uppityperson Sep 2016 #1
I'm from Tacoma gopiscrap Sep 2016 #2
my sister just missed KT2000 Sep 2016 #9
I remember when tbhat hapened gopiscrap Sep 2016 #10
I can't wring my hands over gunz anymore. lindysalsagal Sep 2016 #3
If I said what I thought in reaction to that, my post would probably get hidden so suffice it to uppityperson Sep 2016 #4
So, fix it. Be my guest. Who's stopping you? Come on. What are you waiting for? lindysalsagal Sep 2016 #5
Wtf? uppityperson Sep 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #7
I feel sorry for those impacted. My friends living nearby are in shock. It's too easy to think of th uppityperson Sep 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #23
Not America, the NRA mythology Sep 2016 #18
There's an enthusiasm gap. EL34x4 Sep 2016 #19
ammosexuals re assure me guns aren't a problem. KG Sep 2016 #8
The fact that some people desire to kill other people is the problem, not "gunz" jack_krass Sep 2016 #13
If the effin' guns weren't so readily available malaise Sep 2016 #14
How do you know? There are lots of ways to inflict mass dama, some even more destructive than guns.. jack_krass Sep 2016 #20
These deaths are on you, a gun supporter. lindysalsagal Sep 2016 #21
Nope, my conscience is clear, but if you wanna play that game... jack_krass Sep 2016 #22
Damn suffragette Sep 2016 #11
Fifth person has died melman Sep 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #16
shit uponit7771 Sep 2016 #17

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Damn it.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 11:40 PM
Sep 2016

Small mall in a rather out of the way place, good for bathroom break before going to Anacortes to catch ferry to San Juans.

KT2000

(20,584 posts)
9. my sister just missed
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 01:25 AM
Sep 2016

getting shot at in the Tacoma Mall years ago. She was just lucky her son wanted to look for socks in a store right before the area where people were shot.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. If I said what I thought in reaction to that, my post would probably get hidden so suffice it to
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 11:55 PM
Sep 2016

say that you are wrong and writing off people who are killed is incredibly insensitive.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
5. So, fix it. Be my guest. Who's stopping you? Come on. What are you waiting for?
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:00 AM
Sep 2016

Show us all how its done. Don't keep us in suspense.

Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #3)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. I feel sorry for those impacted. My friends living nearby are in shock. It's too easy to think of th
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 03:24 AM
Sep 2016

those kiilled as statistics, but each was a person with friends and family and each address grieved.

Don't let your heart harden and not care.

Response to uppityperson (Reply #12)

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
18. Not America, the NRA
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 08:39 AM
Sep 2016

Many restrictions are quite popular, but the elected officials are more beholden to the entrenched NRA and those who are highly motivated to vote for the NRA. Because of how the House is so gerrymandered, the NRA can get away with opposing things that 80%+ believe in because their voters are highly motivated by that issue and are concentrated in particular districts.

The groups opposed to gun violence haven't yet been as successful at motivating voters. The NRA has managed to thoroughly convince a lot of gun owners that any Democratic candidate is plotting like Snidely Whiplash to take away their precious guns, that even something as simple as an enhanced background check drives them into a frenzy.

But over time, I think that will be less effective.

The bigger question to me is how do we have reasonable restrictions on guns in a world where 3D printing is a thing? In the long term, there isn't a way to prevent people from being able to print their own guns.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
19. There's an enthusiasm gap.
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:03 AM
Sep 2016

For voters who support increased gun control, it isn't their most important issue. To voters opposed to increased gun control, it typically is.

malaise

(269,057 posts)
14. If the effin' guns weren't so readily available
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:01 AM
Sep 2016

there would be fewer slaughters - it's that effin' simple.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
20. How do you know? There are lots of ways to inflict mass dama, some even more destructive than guns..
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 09:55 AM
Sep 2016

FFS look at what you can do with ammonia and fertilizer or with stereos. If we don't start to adress underlying causes of these massacres, they'll continue, with or without gun laws.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
22. Nope, my conscience is clear, but if you wanna play that game...
Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Sep 2016

Fixating on guns, and keeping focus and energy away from searching for true root causes of violence, YOU are to blame. People can commit mass murder without guns

Response to LonePirate (Original post)

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