Honestly, I can accept that some people don't (and will never) support Clinton, but I simply can't understand how anyone can knowingly and deliberately support Trump.

He's a self-evident catastrophe, and a vote for Trump is all the proof I need that a person is insane or terminally stupid.

That includes my own brother. I get that he doesn't like Clinton, but he could leave the choice for POTUS blank on his ballot. He figures that since he's in California
it doesn't matter if he votes for Trump, but it does matter. It says volumes about who he is as a person.

I was annoyed at people who voted for Bush, not simply because they voted for the candidate I didn't support, but rather because their reasons for doing so were completely stupid, and I had difficulty respecting someone who could willingly make such an idiotic choice. But I got over it, and I get along fine with those people now.

Or at least I did, until they started singing Trump's praises. I can accept that some people don't like Clinton. I can even accept that some Democrats don't like her, but there is no way that I can accept that someone can actually be conscious and informed and still vote for Trump.

That's a great point. I've seen enablers and pseudo-peacemakers argue that we shouldn't shun someone simply because they choose a different candidate. While that might be true, it also misses the point. I'm not avoiding my aunt because she's voting for Trump; I'm avoiding her because she supports his hateful, racist, dishonest, xenophobic warmongering agenda.

I tried to appeal to him as a scientist--which he is--and got nowhere.


My brother's adult children have been working on him about Trump and they are getting nowhere. I'm seriously considering breaking off
a relationship with him--which isn't just about Trump--but been building for years. I am seeing him much more clearly as a self-absorbed,
greedy, unempathic individual. At 67 he isn't going to change. It's no wonder he has no qualms about supporting Trump.